Tyson Fury Set To Receive Ultimatum Contract For Usyk Fight

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  1. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    And it is a “premium offer” - however “there will be no negotiation on the price”.

    [url]https://boxing-social.com/news/tyson-fury-offer-to-fight-usyk/[/url]

    That was the whole point of Usyk signing with the Saudis. This is exactly the way to deal with Fury’s ducking and pricing himself out by nitpicking at the contract, the split, the venue, the date, the rematch etc.

    Now the ogre will have nowhere to hide. But I’m sure that if he ducks Usyk for the third time in the space of some one and a half years, the incumbent Fury cult members will find a way to explain how it’s Usyk again who doesn’t want the fight or how Usyk is inactive or how the money offered to Fury is not good enough or whatever.
     
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  2. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    It's what we were all trying to tell you all along Sprav, it was always going to be Saudi. The all want that coin and no one would be fighting in between mandos if they could help it.

    Fury's bollocks talking over the last few months was his normal posturing, he's always been the same. It's best to laugh it off, or just ignore it if it bothers you so much.

    December should be an awesome month for boxing. Those Amer Abdallah interviews have got me hyped.

    My offer still stands to you mate, inbox if you want to up the ante further

    Best of luck to all four fighters.
     
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  3. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Nah, mate, Fury is an unreliable coward. He already scuppered a Saudi deal earlier this year. The opportunity was there, Usyk was happy and signed his side of the deal - Fury still scuppered it. What is the guarantee he wouldn't do it again? Also, he stated that the idea of this Saudi tournament was "bull****". You give him way too much credit as a fan, mate. I understand it but your loyalty and trust in him is misplaced I'm afraid.

    I can see him retiring instead of facing Usyk (while parading around that he is the greatest and no man blah blah of course). Fury's ego is the biggest one I've ever seen in boxing. Abdallah now says that they wouldn't put a "take it or leave it" offer out, but then he confirms that the offer will be an ultimatum indeed - which is exactly that, a "take it or leave it" offer. It's just a matter of semantics. And Fury can pull the "they can't disrespect the Gypsy King by thinking they can tell me what's my worth" card then retire. In fact, I think this is the most likely scenario. Especially since if Fury fights around September, no way in hell he would be ready to step in the ring again three months later in December. Not even against Chisora (lol), but especially not against Usyk. Right now, I'd give it a 20% chance that Fury ever faces Usyk, regardless of what amount the Saudis will offer him now. At this point, I'm quite certain that his ego and his fear of losing to Usyk will prevail.
     
  4. Leeroy84

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    I think you're wrong and I think you've let your hatred blinker logic. It was always all about money and the Princes wishes IMO.
    I'll hold my hand up, as always, if I am wrong.

    All this back and forth over this year so far have been brilliant from my perspective, as I saw it coming a mile away and just sat back enjoying Fury dropping grenades into the boxing world while everyone around the heavyweight division cries. It was always going to be Saudi, and the four kings of the division were always going to try to postpone any movement until they knew the ins and outs of the Saudi deals.

    One thing I have noticed (not directly from you, as such), is that it appears all Fury fans want the Usyk fight, while Usyk fans want Fury to retire. I think thats hillarious. People have so many "feels" about a friggin' boxer who wouldnt **** on them if they were on fire.

    Fury is the bad guy, a role he plays well, because he likely is not a good guy by nature, but its boxing so why people care about "feels" is beyond me. But then again, who would you have to relay all your emotions about if he was not here :) We may even agree on your next candidate.
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury is fighting in September, in a "monstrous" fight, AJ is fighting August, as well as Usyk and Wilder will probably fight too. So the whole they won't fight till December is just the nwxt b. c. And i can't count how many times Fury fans have sais things and then do a 180 turn.
    And we can ban bet right now that Fury will find a way to duck the Undisputed at December again. He already have the chance to fight in Saudi, and rejected it.

    And just of now Fury says big news coming and big fight as well.
     
  6. Leeroy84

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    I'd take a bet on the Saudi fights happening at this point having heard Amers interviews, if not December (injuries, stadium delays etc) then before April 24 at the latest. What the Prince wants, the Prince gets. I just sadly can't do a ban bet, as I'm tied to Sprav for that (hopefully). Happy to do anything else though, have a think and let me know.
     
  7. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    That's not what I noticed at all. From Fury fans, all I say is why Usyk is overrated/not a necessary fight. Personally, there is nothing more I want from boxing than a HW undisputed bout between Usyk and Fury. That's what I want. But what I think will happen is that Fury will keep ducking Usyk and/or retire eventually without facing him. Even as a Fury fan, you must admit the one who has been pushing and pushing for this fight was always Usyk and never Fury. Fury wasn't even in camp, he lied about it, even his own cousin and SugarHill exposed him about this (which prompted Uncle Fester to s**t on him and call for SugarHill's sacking). I want the fight to happen because I'm absolutely sure Usyk would batter Fury. But I think it will never happen - as sad as it is, Fury is simply a coward for that. Don't get me wrong, I rate Fury very highly. I think he beats everyone in the current HW division apart from Usyk (and maybe, just maybe Zhang). But he has always been a businessman first and foremost, always managing his career with risk/reward calculations and he was never this Spartan warrior he portrayed himself to be. He was offered a then-career high offer to fight David Price but ducked him because Price was dangerous for him back then. In 2018, he was offered a Joshua fight but he opted to beat some tomato cans then fight Wilder - because he knew Wilder would be a much easier fight than AJ. He ducked a still pre-Povetkin KO Whyte in 2019 - and only wanted a piece of Whyte last year when Whyte was already just half the fighter he'd used to be.

    So there's a difference between what I want and what I believe will happen. It's all based on pattern recognition. Fury could have built an ATG legacy by now by fighting Usyk, Joshua, Joyce, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Zhang etc. But the money and the artificially padded 0 record was always more important. It's a shame, but hey - it's his health, his career. I just don't like it when others try to deny these facts. He is an exceptional talent and his career and resume simply don't do justice to his skills as a fighter. I think we can agree on that as even though he had 34 fights and he will be 35 in a few months, he only fought two of all the active top fighters today - and even that's a stretch, calling the neurologically damaged, next to zero punch resistance, 2022 version of Whyte a top guy.
     
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  8. Leeroy84

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    Well if you're not seeing the same posts I am, I cant help there. But they're in your Fury threads ;)

    This is refreshing, and as I genuinly thought from yourself.

    Again, the Saudis bringing the money in earlier in the year changed everything. Follow the money. People who believe what Fury says outside of the ring, are simply morons (I dont know many that do), but I dont even think true Fury fans beleive what he says, its his actions inside the ring that truly matter. I dont defend his actions outside of the ring, he's clearly a shitty human being. But I care not for that one iota. I see this fight happening, no matter what the past indicates. As I stated earlier, what the Prince wants, he gets. Fury will likely cause ripples along the way (i hope so too, just to watch these forums implode), but he'll line up with cup in hand for his millions when the time comes.


    I do appreciate your apprehension, its reasonably warranted due to Furys questionable past. Fury has wasted a large portion of his short boxing career, with alcohol, drugs, idiocy and *wink* "mental elf' ". Who knows what he could of achieved if he'd stay active. But you'd still hate on him because hes a shitty human being. I'm not sure that your opinon of him would change, even if he stayed active, fought the Wlad rematch, fought AJ yada yada yada. Your emotions are why you hate on Fury, not his skill set. He's in your head rent free (and i think you enjoy it).
    To me thats comical, and although not ideal (activity would be ideal), its still entertaining.

    But going forward, its always the money that makes the world turn around. No way Fury was fighting this year unless he's forced to, not with all that Saudi money down the line. The same extends to Usyk, no way he'd be fighting Dubois if the Saudis could front cash for the bigger fights earlier this year.
    Difference is, Fury is being his usual d1ck about it, no surprise to me. Usyk is classy, although has been more vocal (ie name calling etc) and I think thats because Furys wriggled his way into Usyks head too. Whether it changes Usyks approach or not, is a good discussion, I dont think it would as Oleksandr is a true proffesional. But seeing Usyk come out calling names, shows somethings working.

    Undisputed has to be the goal for both fighters, Usyk and Fury. And I see it happening, (****ing) finally.
     
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  9. Leeroy84

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    I actually can imagine a scenario where Fury turns down this "ultimatum", asking for something like an extra 5 or 10m, and the Prince will pay it lol.
    This place would be funny if that happened, especially the interim days before the final offer is accepted.