Tyson Fury should end 2019 ranked no higher than 3rd world heavyweight

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Unforgiven, Nov 23, 2019.


  1. Citizen Smith

    Citizen Smith Active Member Full Member

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    People don't change that much Mitch. Chisora was a punch bag and Gashi, Szpilka and Price wins do not change that. It is only recent perception that changes the public view.
     
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  2. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte was British level at the time. A very crude British level fighter at that. It's really not that impressive a win. Whyte is the most improved fighter in the division. It's a win that's aged well but it's not a 'legacy' win.

    Fury ended Chisora's longest winning streak twice. The second time Chisora was 31 and eight years a pro. That was his prime.

    I think Fury's win over Wlad and draw over Wilder are better than any of AJ's wins. Outside of that AJ has a little bit more.

    The argument here is not whose resume is better. What I'm trying to say is that there's really not that much in it. AJ's "stacked resume" is a complete myth. There's really not a lot between the resume's of Fury, Wilder and AJ. AJ probably has the edge but he also has a loss.
     
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  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beating Parker is more impressive win than beatingg Wilder let alone drawing with Wilder in my opinion. Parkers win over Ruiz is more impressive than Wilders win over Ortiz. Plus you could say Povetkin at the time AJ fought hm had the most in depth resume after AJ.
     
  4. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's just your opinion. I disagree. I think Wilder ices every man in the division including Parker apart from possibly Fury so a controversial draw with Wilder IMO is a serious result. Lasting 12 rounds with Wilder is a serious achievement. 90% of fan forum polls had Fury winning the fight.
     
  5. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had Hughie Fury beating Parker by two points and Parker has since lost to Whyte. He only got the cards v Ruiz because it was in New Zealand. He's not great at all is he?
     
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  6. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Jesus Christ. Parker a better win than Wilder?

    Get those matchroom blinkers off. Be objective man
     
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  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Parker beating Hughie comfortably in what was probably the most boring fight I ve ever see. That said beating Ruiz ( i had Parker winning 7 rounds to 5) is more impressive that beating Ortiz, beating Takam ( i had Parker winning 8 round to 4) is up there there with of any of the other Wilder wins.
     
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  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Better resume than Wilder? Yeah sure. Ignore hype go on their fight and what they have proven in the ring against proven opposition.

    It' clear from the "eye test" too that Parker is obviously the most well rounded fighter of the two.

    Parker has better defence than Ortiz, much better chinn, better foot work, much quicker hands a far more proven resume than Ortiz. Ortiz has caused Wilder a lot of problems in these two fights.
     
  9. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We can debate until the cows come home. Nothing will change the fact that AJ's resume is wafer thin. Fractionally better than Wilder and IMO on par with Fury although the latter hasn't been beaten.
     
  10. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You've a very high opinion of Parker. He's really not that good.
     
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  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Besides a shot WK 4 years ago Fury has done jack besides the Wilder draw, I am perplexed that a guy who has done so little is so highly regarded.....I guess sticking your tongue out, raising your arms , throwing 4 punches a round and getting rescued from the Ref is a resume enhancer for his British fans.

    BTW, Chisora is/was always a local clubfighter at best...

    In agreement, Parker sucks, he shot his wad.

    Nobody can answer me this......if Wilder is just this Bum as claimed by posters here why the F did not Fury raise utter hell into a immediate rematch............but instead you get nothing but crickets..............did Ward/GGG/Kova and Canelo fight absolute bums after their close fights? No, they got right back to business.
     
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  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder and Fury may be better than Joshua although it's debatable they both beat him.

    The pair though ought to be ashamed of themselves as apart from their own bout they don't want to face any top fighters. I really do believe AJ wanted to fight the pair of them but the two Prima Donna's wouldn't play ball.
     
  13. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Totally agree.
     
  14. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    A 50-year-old who Fury wouldn't touch. :)
     
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  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's funny how the anti-Fury clan can't just leave it at "he's hardly beat any ranked fighters" or "he hasn't had a win over a ranked fighter in years" (both of which are TRUE and VALID statements/critcisms) ....... no, we have to get these convoluted tales of how the likes of Chisora, Wlad and even Wilder turned up for their fights with Fury in horrible mental state and lacking motivation or (n Wilder's case) too light .... and then became signifiantly better fighters afterwards.
    It can't be that Fury rose to occasion and made them look bad or average. No, he just got lucky every time. Their inability to fight the way they have done before has nothing to do with what Fury was doing.

    The agenda is so strong, people are actually believing it.

    Fair enough, Wlad was OLD and past it.
    Chisora isn't that good.
    And Wilder's a crude fighter with a lot of padding on his record.
    ALL TRUE.
    But don't try telling me they were all unusualy badly prepared for the Fury fights. It's bullshtt
     
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