Tyson Fury simply outclassed Wladimir Klitschko (VIDEO)

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    But that's not all he was doing. That may have been what was "scoring" for him, but the most impressive thing Fury did was prevent Wlad from scoring. Again, the movement. All of it.

    Wlad didn't know where to throw, so he kind of just kept mulling forward, and whenever Fury would fluster his rhythm or confuse him with movement, Wlad had to hit the "reset" button much in the same way David Tua was constantly being "reset" in his plod forward, eat a jab, reset, plod forward, eat a jab, reset, rinse and repeat.

    For Tua, the dreaded reset button usually always came from eating a jab. But for Wlad, it was head movement and confusion.

    Fury looked like a mongoose doing a dance for a perturbed cobra.

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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Note that my sentence ended on the word butterfly with no mention of stinging!

    :lol::good
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: good video like usual, love the editing, and when you say I DONT KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING. lol
     
  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    All due respect, but I do think Fury did something mighty impressive. He was using tactics that, in many ways, have become a lost art form in the sweet science. I maintain that it was a perfect game plan and execution thereof on the part of Fury.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Great post.

    I agree with pretty much all of this, and think you and I are largely on the same page regarding the reasons why Fury won.

    :thumbsup
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I disagree with the age factor though. Maybe prime Wlad would have lost to fury, but to me it looked like Wlad's footspeed/hand speed has dropped tremendously, of course Tyson being a moving target had something to do with the hand speed factor. Also I just dont see a prime Wlad struggling with Bryant Jennings.
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Sadly, I'm pretty certain that won't be the last time you hear me saying that, ellerbe. :lol:

    I officially only picked two fights the entire year:
    * Pac MD Floyd
    * Wlad TKO6 Fury
    :rofl

    Thanks for watching! :thumbsup
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Keep making vids man :good, you might be literally the only unbiased boxing channel.
     
  9. Gerard

    Gerard Active Member Full Member

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    I completely agree with this. Wlad is not a fighter.
    He is a safety-only one-dimensional boxer who relies on grabbing/hugging and leaning on smaller men (and finishing them off once he depletes their energy after the hugging/leaning. IMO an illegal tactic).

    When he couldn't apply that tactic on the bigger/faster man, he got exposed. I saw absolutely no inside-fighting skills, no adaption, no killer-instinct, no other skill-set besides the jab and straight right (I don't consider clinching a skill)..
    All stuff a great champion should have.

    Steward wouldn't have made a difference. His corner told him to go to the body, his corner told him to make it an inside-fight and dog it out, his corner told he was behind and in the last several rounds and he was told to go for the knockout.
    Steward would have said all those things aswell. Mind you that Steward disliked Wladimirs cowardness aswell and many times yelled at him to let his hands go and take the man out...without results.

    But Wladimir doesn't have the fighter hearth (unlike Vitali). He can't make a dog-fight since he's too afraid (you can clearly see it takes him out his comfort zone and gives him a nervous breakdown) and doesn't have the skill-set. he grabs even in the last rounds when he needs a knockout...

    What a waste of athletic abilities.
     
  10. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
  11. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    Congrats to Fury, he won this fight clearly.

    As for Wlad, he has looked terrible for the last two years or so. 40 year old men simply should not be in a boxing ring. Wlad is way past his prime and just does not have the reflexes for this anymore.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty good ****ysis Rummy, the one thing I noticed in the fight though is that Fury keeps his left extremely low. If Wlad wins the rematch, that will be why.

    btw, I thought you'd be introducing us to your singing coach in this video. :lol:
     
  13. divac

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    Fury used good defensive tactics. I give Fury credit for good, not great defensive tactics, the reason being is that Wlad never attempted to mount an attack of more than a jab.

    When a fighter swivels waist and moves his head on you, you attempt to target the body, Wlad didn't try it ounce, as many have said throughout this forum, Wlad was scared to take any kind of risk and fight out of the safety first mode he always fights in.

    How much credit defensively really goes to Fury when we've seen Wlad fight timid the way he did for the last 10 years.

    Movement didn't stop Wlad from dominating a much smaller fighter in Chris Byrd.

    I think we're somewhat on the same page though. Size alone isn't what beats Wlad. A standing still slow lumbering type like Valuev would have gotten destroyed by any version of Wlad imo.

    A fighter in Wlad's size range with just half Wlad's skill level does represent problems simply because Wlad fights scared everytime he enters a ring.

    In the case of Wlad vs Fury, Wlad needed to adapt his normal gameplan of the jab and clinch simply because Fury was all of quicker, bigger, and faster than Wlad.
    What I guarantee you Fury wasn't, was that he was not stronger and the more explosive puncher in there with Wlad.
    That's where Wlad had to attempt to make it work for him.
    Getting inside Fury's reach, working the body (did Wlad even attempt a body shot?) and try throwing hard shots here and there other than the jab. This type of a gameplan requires a fighter to take a shot here and there, its not a safety first gameplan that Wlad has employed everytime during that last 10 years

    Wlad never put pressure as Fury was allowed by Wlad to dance around and maneuver the ring so relaxed that on several occacions Fury put his gloves behind his back to mock Wlad and Wlad paused everytime.
    I guarantee you one thing, if that crazy waist and headmovent Fury employed was coming from a Heavyweight 6'2", Wlad would have advanced forward at a pace that never would allow that fighter to put his hands behind his back
     
  14. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    100% this. Fantastic post. This sums up Wladimir so well. He is nothing like Vitali.
     
  15. Misfit

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    Good video Rummy, thanks’