Tyson Fury: Top 5 Guys He's Defeated?

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  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can only beat what's in front of you. Being the best of your era is the highest achievement any boxer can hope for realistically.
     
  2. ShortRound

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    "On the other hand, it's also fair to say Fury was talking some crazy nonsense"

    Not really. Ustinov was signed to K2 and the Klitschko's were known for trying to get every advantage they could. I wouldn't put anything past them. Also, how Fury fought a relatively low level Ustinov on a day or two's notice would have no bearing on how Fury would fight Wlad after months of preparation.

    "there was somewhat of an element of surprise to how he approached the fight"

    Wlad knew and said that one of Fury's greatest strengths was his movement before the fight. The elements of surprise were 1. Fury's engine (Wlad said after the fight that "I couldn't believe how fast he was after 6 rounds") 2. Fury's durability (Wlad implied before the fight that since Cunningham knocked Fury down with a haymaker to the nose, Fury was going to be more of a Pulev than a Wach and wouldn't be able to handle his power) and 3. That Wlad didn't receive more A-side and hometown favouritism on the scorecards.

    "Klitschko starting to have some success in the late rounds"

    The judges unanimously gave rounds 10 and 11 to Fury and over 90% of reviewers on eyeonthering gave them to Fury as well so this is a false narrative. Fury became more aggressive in the final two rounds on Peter's instruction and Wlad had most success in one late round: the 12th. Why? Aside from Fury having to keep his trunks from falling down it was because Wlad had thrown 62% less punches and moved less than Fury for the 11 preceding rounds and was keeping something in the tank for a late push, in this case a final 90 second push. Incidentally, you can see the exact same in the Jennings fight: Wlad's best round was also the 12th. Wlad had learned to conserve his energy better for late in a fight, which had been a big problem for him earlier in his career.
     
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  3. ShortRound

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    Lewis's top 5 wins of his 41 contain the likes of Rahman, Mercer and Tua: considered B/C level fighters and fringe contenders in their day and he had the best record in the 90's! It's only a decade or two later that people nostalgise about eras.
     
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  4. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    Hammer above Cunningham and Wallin. My days.
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    NEETzchean, your posts always give me the distinct impression that you don't actually watch the fights involving these boxers you obsess over
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    Here's a good one to get you started
     
  6. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    What a brilliant, logical and comprehensive response.
     
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  7. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Glad I could help put you on the right track NEETz

    Night night
     
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  8. ShortRound

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    Cool.
     
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  9. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Wlad, Wilder, Whyte, Chisora and Wallin are his Top 5 Ws.
     
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  10. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol, are you having a laugh

    Lewis beat. (*denotes World Champion)
    V Klitschko*
    Tyson*
    Holyfield* (twice)
    Galota
    Morrison*
    Bruno*
    Rahman*
    McCall*
    Mercer*
    Tua
    Biggs
    Ruddock
    Ackinwande*
    Tucker. . . . . .to name but a few that are better than anyone Tyson Fury fought
     
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  11. Goran_

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    What a bunch of BS.. the Tyson LL fought was a shell who got whooped by Danny Williams.. & saying men like Akinwande are better than all the guys Fury fought is pungent horse manure to put it mildly.. do you even know anything about Akinwande? He was ridiculed throughout his career for numerous performances… One of which was against British cruiserweight Johnny Nelson.. a contest of unrelieved tedium.. Akinwande, lacking the power to subdue an inferior non HW.. Biggs? Biggs was an excellent amateur but failed miserably as a professional, you do know he lost about a QUARTER of his fights don't you? Got smashed by men like Gary Mason? Golota? A guy who was so mentally fragile he kept self sabotaging in the ring LOL Rose tinted glasses pal.. Vitali quit against a tiny southpaw ffs.. stop eulogising these ppl.. they weren't unbeatable, far from it ..
     
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  12. The Clan

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    you’re right they weren’t unbeatable but they were better than Fury’s resume
     
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  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People forget how good the Golota and Ruddock wins in particular were. Lennox was only a 6 to 5 betting favorite against Golota coming off the Bowe fights and Ruddock opened as a 2-1 favorite. They lasted a combined 5 minutes against Lennox…
     
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  14. Finkel

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    I was with you until the part about them all being better than anyone Tyson Fury fought. But it shows that Fury has no where near the resume some want to pretend he has
     
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  15. ShortRound

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    I'm not going to respond to morons like that but what I said stands: after Vitali and Holyfield the record is B/C level filler like Grant, Briggs and Golota. Wlad's is much the same but there's more diversity of styles and body types and the better top win is replaced by even more B/C level filler, who in many cases beat Lewis's opponents.

    Fury has fought two of the hardest punchers ever who also happened to be 6'5+, 10+ consecutive defence world champs, on 4 occasions, away from home, as the B-side and not lost once. Wlad and Wilder 2 are two of the great performances in heavyweight history. The Wilder trilogy was coming back from 2.5 years of inactivity and being a 30 stone drug addict, with few parallels in boxing history.

    Lewis conversely was one-punch KO'd twice by wide underdog fringe contenders, who were no better than someone like Whyte.
     
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