Tyson Fury triggers rematch clause

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To be fair looking at Warren interview i suspect Fury will then decide to not take the rematch after some time.
    He is now claiming that Fury is bipolar and should be excused for everything he said, every insult, and literally do not take anything he say seriously, and that he change his mind constantly.
    I don't believe a single thing, and this is Fury old excuse, aka Mental Illness, and the full time protection, as Fury's can't take any criticism.
     
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  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Like the wilder contracted rematch he had to go to court to fulfil. Or the wlad fight he never fulfilled
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Another reason why Usyk should finally be a tough man in this, and not let himself and his team get bullied. Just retire and say f*** you to Fury and his team.
    He won't gain anything out of this fight anyway + what motivation he will have anyway for this fight?


    Retire and let Fury fight AJ and get his head smashed all over the place.
     
  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Expanding, slightly, on my previous post...

    I don't think so.

    Not because I can't see him doing that - but more because it'd take a particular type of fighter to ask different questions of Usyk that might make for a banana skin.

    And actually - one of the better candidates there is Hrgovic.

    I'm a bit of a broken record on Hrgovic - he's massively overrated in general, has accomplished very little and has wasted good years he could've been learning and preparing to compete...

    But.

    One of the tools required to make a difficult night for Usyk is a good enough chin and recovery to avoid getting put onto the back foot and drowned - the reason Chisora did well was because he had the overall punch resistance to try and fight his own fight (something neither AJ or Fury had, for different reasons).

    Hrgovic appears have that durability - he's not really ready for Usyk, he might never be good enough for Usyk as he is now... But he might just have banana skin potential.


    And that brings us back to Fury.

    If Fury wanted to throw a banana skin at Usyk, he'd want Usyk to keep the IBF strap and be pushed into that mandatory defence (or Usyk to have to voluntarily drop the belt to swerve, which I don't think he would).
     
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  5. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Incorrect.

    Fury wants the rematch. Likely Turki also wants the rematch.

    Usyk is the unknown factor and therefore has all of the leverage. He’s literally the only party to this who may not want the fight. He certainly doesn’t need it for his legacy like Fury does. Make no mistake, Usyk holds all of the cards here.
     
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  6. Brumsongs

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    You would have been happier if the fight hadn't happened so you could carry on boring everyone about that. Usyk winning has brought you no joy because, clearly, nothing does.
     
  7. tragedy

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    As I rewatch the fight I realize that in the middle rounds the only time Fury taunts and showboats is after throwing punches. Its because he is dead tired and needs to pause the action somehow instead of following up with more punches. He's basically doing it to take a breather. If you look at the punch stats Fury's punches thrown starts falling off a cliff after round 6. He was knackered badly in the middle rounds and tries to hide it and Usyk begins taking over dramatically at the exact same point. How does Fury fix this mid rounds fall off in the rematch? Usyk is always going to push his pace way higher than any other fighter.
     
  8. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't see how that's good for the sport.

    Whoever wins the Usyk vs Fury rematch is the rightful champion both in the eyes of the public and in reality.
     
  9. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk must surely get more money than Fury for the rematch.

    The first fight should have been split 50/50 between them.
     
  10. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    If Fury wins, the haters will find many ways to discredit it.

    Fury's dad is a twat, Fury is also a twat on occasions but he is a decent fighter and one of the best of his generation.
     
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  11. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk can retire now as a certified ATG but now he is the top man in the division, he may as well make the huge money that is available.
     
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  12. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, the 'It's not going to happen' card being played again already.

    We saw how well the 'It's not going to happen' card went last time - LOL!
     
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  13. The Cryptkeeper

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    Whilst I would ordinarily agree with you, I don't think Usyk is especially driven by the big dollars. He's a very rich man now and is obviously more concerned with family and what is going on in his homeland.

    But he does hold all of the cards. Anybody thinking that Fury (or Turki for that matter) has any real bargaining power with regards to a rematch has no idea about negotiation. Usyk has something that Fury wants. Fury has nothing that Usyk wants. Turki has a well full of cash (pardon the turn of phrase) and wants to put on the big shows but unless Usyk actually agrees to fight, there will be no fight.

    This fight, if it goes ahead, will largely be on Usyk's terms. It certainly won't be a 50/50 split. Usyk should be asking for 80% of the purse and walking away if he doesn't get better terms than what Fury got for the first fight.
     
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  14. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk has earned the right to do whatever he fancies. I think he'll be back in the ring a few more times before retirement but if he never steps foot in a ring again, he leaves with great wealth and ATG status.
     
  15. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You may be right. Usyk has any number of options.

    The thing is, the Fury fans think Usyk's options are Fury or nobody. That couldn't be further from the truth. Whilst Usyk would get less money by fighting guys like Kabayel, Hrgovic, possibly Parker and so on, these are also very low risk fights for him. He could easily make bank for the next 3 years picking off highly rated guys in the division and not absorb the risk that goes with fighting Fury again.

    Usyk owes Fury nothing.
     
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