Tyson Fury : Usyk HAS to fight me in december he doesnt have a choice

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  1. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    ... So the only evidence you have for Usyk being any sort of draw is his fights against Joshua, who does 1 million with everyone and even outsold him with Ruiz 2, Parker, and Povetkin. Hmm...

    ...If Fury was only interested in promoting his MMA fight, why not use the exposure to call out AJ, who is the actual proven commodity here? If anything, Fury is doing Usyk a favor by keeping his name out there and maybe -just maybe- he actually wants to fight the guy and cave his face in.

    Usyk didn't mention anything about injuries until the fight became a reality, and you don't have a clue what those "injuries" are. If they signed for a December fight, he should not be allowed to delay it without documented medical issues. Fury is 100% correct in saying that this is breach of contract.

    Time to fight.
     
  2. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Your mental gymnastics doesn't add up, you understand that - right?

    First, you said Usyk "couldn't draw flies to a landfill" but now that I've actually quoted real numbers, you want to pivot and focus on the fact that I brought up Joshua's name. I told you that Usyk outsold Chisora and Whyte, I told you that Usyk/Bellew outsold Fury/Whyte, but you chose to ignore the fact and spin fiction.

    Fury has invoked Joshua's name in the lead-up to his last five fights as well... your memory conveniently overlooks that, huh? It's become a repetitive pattern. You've again validated exactly why Fury is using Usyk's name in the lead-up to the Ngannou fight.

    So the same fan that will defend Fury for failing a PED test, is now wanting EVIDENCE of Usyk's injuries? :lol: Jesus Christ lad. Do you have no shame? Can you provide me with evidence of the boar that Fury claimed to have consumed? Perhaps that local farmer he tried to bribe into supporting his alibi could vouch for him?

    Keep going round in circles, you're embarrassing yourself.
     
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  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is a circular argument. Neither of you will ever convince the other. It is a complete waste of time and energy prolonging it.
     
  4. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk can only fight once a year and never in december because of historical injuries :lol:
     
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  5. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    What’s fact and what’s fiction?

    1. Fury has a history of failed PED tests
    2. Usyk has a history of failed PED tests

    :eusa_liar:
     
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  6. Brighton bomber

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    He didn't go into details, he simply said he sustained injuries after the Dubois fight but was fine and it wouldn't prevent a fight with Fury.

    Doesn't matter if he is the bigger star, he knows the fight everyone really cares about is unification with Usyk, any mention of that fight will create articles that will promote his upcoming fight. Why did Mayweather always mention Pac when he was the bigger draw? If it sells an extra 50K PPV's because he does that, that's money in his pocket. Fury is just doing his job to promote himself with all this talk.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    I agree tbf.
     
  8. steviebruno

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    Mayweather mentioned Pac only when asked about him; he was always concious of keeping all of the attention for himself and would always reject questions about Pac when he had an upcoming fight. 'My focus is on my opponent' was a common tactic of his.

    .... If Usyk has sustained injuries but has signed to fight in December, he is obligated to reveal what those injuries are. In what world do you guys think it's okay to sign a contract for a specific date, then say, 'nah, I'll fight next year'?

    Contracts don't work that way. Not in boxing. Not in life.
     
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  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    In boxing you often sign a contract without a set specific date or venue for an event as injuries and other issues such as other events clashing result in changes of dates. Even when it was reported that the fight was signed it was also reported it would be either be in Dec or early 2024. So Usyk hasn't done anything wrong here and is not in breach of contract.
     
  10. steviebruno

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    You brought up him selling 600k against Bellew, as if Bellew hadn't already doubled that in his first fight with Haye, then did 890k in the rematch. I am not sure why you think Usyk selling far less than Haye is an argument in his favor for being a draw.

    He is a B side. If you want to make the argument that Fury is also a B side, that's fine...but why would a B side use another B sider to try and sell an unrelated, cross genre fight?

    In what world does thIs make sense?

    What if the truth is that they have actually signed to fight in December, and THAT is the fight he is promoting?
     
  11. steviebruno

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    We don't have the specifics of the contract, though. The only one providing a date so far is Fury. Do you think he is pulling December 23rd out of his ass? From what was understood, the contingency existed for the possibility that Fury would need time to recover from his upcoming bout. It wasn't for Usyk to come up with an undisclosed injury after having already signed.
     
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  12. Brighton bomber

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    You don't have the specifics of the contract either the 23rd Dec is a provisional date but it doesn't mean it has to happen then. We see this all the time in boxing two fighter sign contracts with no exact date or venue, a provisional date is given but then something happens and they have to change the date.

    Remember the Wilder/Fury rematch where Wilder dragged his feet so much Fury signed to fight Joshua only for Wilder to force a 3rd fight. There was no set date for the rematch but both had contractually signed and agreed to a fight.

    This happens in this sport all the time. Inoue was injured in the lead up to Fulton so they postponed the date, there was a set in stone date they had to fight by, Fulton didn't force an injured Inoue to fight, they simply rescheduled.

    Why are you even arguing this point when it's pretty clear to me Fury is just trolling. He has no intention of fighting on Dec 23rd even if Usyk said yes. He's about to fight Ngannou, he'll need some time to recover from that and what you expect him to have a 8-9 week camp for Usyk. Fury is just being Fury and trolling Usyk and the media.
     
  13. mrbigshot

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    Steviebruno is right . There was not a single word about injuries when they signed the contract / announced the fight .

    Its a cheap excuse of usyk and nothing more . Especially when usyk is the fighter who has more time to prepare - fury fights ngannou tomorrow .

    Usyk sounds like a simple liar and cheater to me who tries to cover it up behind his polite and gentlemanstyle apperance , hopefully i,m wrong .

    His laughable fight record in hw does not help ( 5-4-3 ) his credibility
     
  14. steviebruno

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    If Usyk tentatively signed to fight on December 23rd, injured, and with no real intent to keep the date... exactly who is the one trolling?

    Inoue was injured during camp. Usyk was "injured" before he even signed, yet failed to disclose this injury. I am surprised that this is being defended.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    He said he'd be fine and it wouldn't prevent the fight happening, can't see why that's such a big issue. Definitely not as bad as Fury agreeing to fight Wlad in a rematch in Manchester when he knew he was suspended and unable to go ahead with the fight but led Wlad on training and spending money on his camp for a fight that was never going to happen.