Tyson Fury V Prime Vitali Klitchko - Klitchko s Revenge?

He out jabbed a disinterested and 39 year old Wladimir Klitschko 38-34 in their fight and was very likely on PED's for that fight as was found to be positive in a fight that took place just a few months before at a later date.

Outside of that fight, not one of his opponents had a good jab. Vitali has a good jab. It's accurate, he can counter with it, and it has more power to it. Plus he throws it more often. No one out jabbed Vitali, not Lewis or Byrd or any fighter on his resume, which is far deeper than Fury's. Fury's jab is shockingly inaccurate. Check the punch stats in his fights ( Wilder 1, Wlad, Wallin ), you'll see. It might surprise you, this is a key point. Instead of me posting it, I'd rather hear you say, wow you do have a point.

Fury's standing in flux. First he must be cleared of a separate drug allegation to avoid yet another suspension. Then he needs to fight and beat Josuha, and defend his title 4-5 more times, with at least 3 of them being top ten ring rated magazine guys. If he can do that, I'll view his as a top 20 all time heavyweight.

No more Schwartz's or Wallin's for title defenses...those guy's weren't even top 50.

While I do think his win over Wilder was impressive, I also think Wilder is a walking KO waiting to happen if he fights another live body. I have little interest in Fury vs. Wilder 3. The fight with Joshua needs to happen. If not, fight Whyte, Usyk, Joyce, or Hrgovic...someone who can box and punch and doesn't have a glass jaw that is also in their prime.

 

I love Klitschko in this. Not like, love.

Vitali way too busy in there for Fury. Fury just loves those constant breaks during rounds where he does nothing and opponents do not have the foot speed or footwork to do anything about it. Constant resting periods. This guy does. Question is if fury could make it to the finish line and I do not think so.


amazing how everyone has forgotten the Wallin fight.

 

Vitaly..

 

It likely goes the distance imo and it could be close. They're both big, strong men. I think Fury has the better jab, more flair and more natural talent. Vitali is a heavier puncher, has a better chin and had good work rate, but Fury has pretty good work rate for a big man too. Fury's best wins stack up well against Vitali's, but Vitali is better than Wilder. I'd like to see a little more from Tyson before confidently picking him over VK.
Right now, Vitali 60-40, close, on points.

 

Haha when you read some ridiculous biased posts in favor of the klitschko over Fury you realise that even the writer of the post can't believe what he wrote.
Fury wins because he is simply better than both klitschko and he schooled wladimir it was not close. Fury beats any version of wlad and the robotic vitali, the klitschkos had the advantage of being the pioners , a new Type of giants in the hw division so they were facing smaller people, in the current era they are another one in the bunch in the size department so they have no advantage. Fury is bigger,has Faster hands,faster feet,bigger balls,smarter,thougher he is simply better

 

I don't believe you understand what you're seeing when you watch Fury deliver masterclasses in the art of boxing.

Fury is never just doing "nothing" during the spots he's not punching. He's still moving and fainting. Movement is paramount and Fury is always mobile around the ring. He is never standing there doing nothing. Moving is still activity and the angles he creates by moving throws guys off their game and makes them apprehensive to punch.

Vitali would never land a punch against Fury cos he has no angles , no speed and no punch variation. He's crude , unrefined and throws the same 1-2s over and over again. Fury would literally have to stand there like a statue and let Vitali hit him cos that is the only way he gets touched up..

But even that not a given , cos Byrd and Kevin Johnson stood against the ropes and laughed at Vitali tiring and failing to land his predictable clubs.
Byrd and Johnson were also the only two guys Vitai fought that gave him angles . Go figure.

Fact are Fury is WAY more scientific than Vitali. His Ring IQ is genius level. Vitali's is basic.

Vitali could have Von Clausewitz in his corner for this fight and he still wouldn't win.

 

If Wlad looked disinterested, this had more to do with the fact that he was not able to connect on Fury. I think Vitali would also have trouble connecting, we know he had trouble landing against slick boxers in the past.Interesting point on the jab stats. But my feeling is Fury would probably pull out a close decision. I expect a boring fight with neither man landing a lot.

 

Did you see how low Fury's jab connect with and how easy he was hit. See the punch stats. Fury is not hard to hit, he's just very long and fight big guys who don't; move their feet well, or very short guys. Let him fight a guy in his prime with skill and power, then he's in trouble.

Vitali is out throwing and out ending here, and he's the bigger and more durable puncher who never lost more than 3 rounds on any score card as a pro. Fury might last the distance or win some rounds. Nothing beyond that.

 

I don't know about that, Tim.

 

Fury's only big win was against Wilder, period. Both Klitschkos would have knocked him down and decisioned him, and to be perfectly bald, Wlad probably would have stopped him. Wlad was a really good puncher, and a far better finisher than Wilder ever was...he was also overall a greater fighter than Fury and Wilder. If people can't see that after...how many defenses? How many years as champ did Wlad put in? Does anyone believe the competition today is THAT much better than during Wlad's reign? Because it most certainly ISN'T. Joshua got smacked silly by the Pillsbury dough boy and all but quit.

Vitali wins a UD, Wlad TKO in 12.

Fury is getting WAY too much credit for beating old man Klitschko...the Wilder fight was a NICE, really good win, one that makes Fury look closer to ATG status. But he still needs at least one big ko or a couple of decisions over people as good or better than Wilder before he comes anywhere near Wlad's level of greatness. Wlad is at least a top 13 ATG (I have him at no. 9, right above Tyson). Fury isn't even top 20...though that could change in the next year or so (he's very close imo).

 

Vitali would mess Fury up

 

I think a Fury-Vitali fight is close

Both guys have somewhat weak resumes. Vitali had a lot of ability, a great chin, heart, tremendous power, awkwardness etc. But what were his best wins? An aging Sanders. Sam Peter.

Fury has one good win vs Wilder and one over an aging Wladamir. Fury is an incredible mover for a big guy, is durable, and has decent power. I think Fury is super exciting but he needs more quality wins

To me, this match up is a match up of two guys with weak resumes. Could go either way.

 

But Vitali gets credit for LOSING to old man Lewis... Is that how it works?

Vitali never beat anybody even remotely close to Furys level. Chris Byrd befuddled him , but Fury wouldn't?? Whats a Vitali win based on?
He lost to a much smaller , lighter hitting and less mobile version of Fury.

An old Sanders made Vitali retreat on the back foot. How does he beat Fury when he has zero inside game , a smaller reach and no ability to cut the ring off?????

 

so how high do you have Wallin rated in your scheme of things?

 

Two questions: What is Vital's best win? And which quality big men has he beaten (his won size)?