Tyson Fury V Prime Vitali Klitchko - Klitchko s Revenge?

I think Box Rec had him at #37 overall, and look what happened to Fury. He won the fight, but not by a huge margin and IMO was exposed.

 

Finding guys Vitali's size, 6'7" 1/2" 250 pounds isn't easy.

He fought the huge Timo Hoffman who was 6'7" and even heavier , and won 12-0. Vitali was the first man to beat him.

He was up 4-2 over Lewis, with Lewis gassing, but lost on a cut. Lewis would not offer the re-match he said he would, but Vitali proved his quality in this fight.

Corries Sanders was a fast big man, and he dominated the fight, losing only the first round. Sanders of course beat Wald far more impressively than Fury did.

Does that answer your question?

 

Its well known by now that Fury performs his best when motivated by big challenges.

Fury was too light and weak against Wallin. He took him lightly and got his face sliced open but still won. Anybody less adaptive would have struggled to prevent that curt from getting worse. Wallin proved Fury can make adjustments under adversity and win.

Both times Vitali lost were in situations he needed to adapt. He would need a dimension he has never shown to beat Fury. He's not going to turn southpaw and get up in Furys chest like Wallin did so any argument regarding Otto Wallin is completely bunk.

Vitali is an orthodox , straight up , rudimentary boxer who fights exclusively from mid-range. He doesn't bring pressure and can't fight on the inside. He's tailor made for Fury.

 

Certainly but then it seems that Fury beat the better quality big men in Wlad and Wilder.

 

Wlad was quality but, he was also 39 years old and fights nothing like his brother. I never felt Wilder was anything but a flawed puncher. This win won't look as good in the next ten years.

 

"Vitali is an orthodox , straight up , rudimentary boxer who fights exclusively from mid-range. He doesn't bring pressure and can't fight on the inside."

Dino, this is not so. Vitali is not pure orthodox, he has his own off beat rhythm, and can in fighting or out fight. For a big guy he moves very well, and has some head movement. To say he doesn't bring pressure is 100% false. You don't know what you're watching.

 

Vitali moves well enough on the backfoot but a guy can move well and still be orthodox. Joshua is an example.

There's more truth in saying he doesn't bring pressure then there is in saying he does bring pressure.

Clubbing away at guys who had cement feet doesn't prove he applied pressure. He was was able to pummel them using his size and reach from mid range.

A guy like Briggs who was standing still with his hands up would never see past 2 rounds against Joshua cos AJ would run through him with every punch in the book. Vitali let Briggs go 12 round because he doesn't like being up close in the wheel house.

Remember also he never pressured Chris Byrd who was laying up against the ropes.

So what you do now is show me all the times Vitali was a pressure fighter. I'll wait.

 

They are better wins than Timo and Sanders .

 

Blade,

Who do you think has a deep resume, Vitali or Fury?

Fury has beaten maybe 3 opponents who were ranked in the top ten when he fought them with his best win being over a 39 year old. Fury is a little lucky his fight with Wallin wasn't stopped on a cut

By contrast Vitali has beaten at least 9 opponents who were ranked in the top ten when he fought them, and has a much deeper 2nd tier or men who were not but were former champions of contenders that were not ranked such as Briggs, Donald, Sullivan, ect...

Its a 3x difference in both cases. Did you check out how inaccurate Fury's jab really is?

 

Oh boy, Briggs got the tar beaten out of him and was sent to the hospital in a fight that should have been stopped.

We've been over the Byrd fight, he had a ripped up shoulder, and was well in the lead. As a big skilled man with mobility and power, Vitali has lots of options. He can be very aggressive, I guess you missed the Kirk Johnson and Herbie Hide fights for example. It did take long of a wait to show you that. Let's not confuse fighting smart as not being aggressive.

Although I respect Joshua as the best today, he is careful not to face punchers. Briggs would be a dangerous fight for him, better than a few of his title defenses. He hits much harder than Ruiz.

 

Im looking for examples of Vitali being a pressure fighter.. Where are they?

 

I gave you examples, did you not see them?

Watch the Kirk Johnson and Herbie Hide fights for openers. Or the Briggs fight, 12th round when the fight was in the bag, but Vitali went out there to finish him. Examples are there Dino, you just have to watch and see. VItali is not a cover up defensive fighter, he throws lots of punches.

 

Answer the question. Joshua would have absolutely destroyed that version of Briggs. 4 rounds tops.

Like how he literally walked through Kevin Johnson and stooped him in 4 mins. Doing to Johnson what nobody did before or after. Thats what pressure looks like.

Vitali was taken the full 12 by Johnson. He never applied pressure during the fight because he was never a pressure fighter

 

They are not examples of pressure. Johnson was an overweight blob , Vitali didn't have to go looking for him. Hide seemed to go down on his own volition. Looked like a quit job to me.

 

Dino I gave you examples. Just admit it. I was talking about KIRK Johnson. Kirk, not Kevin who played spoiler in his loss to Vitali. Now he's an opponent type. The Kevin Johnson Joshua fought had lost 6 times and drew one A loser of 4 of his past 5 fights!. Vitali took his Kevin Johnson's 0 when he was ranked 10th. Don't even compare the two fights. Yes Joshua can punch but he has taken guys lots of rounds that Vitali could/would have finished sooner.

Joshua would not have stopped Briggs in 4. I doubt that. He took guys like Takam and Brezaeale many rounds, neither of whom were as durable or hit as hard as Briggs does. Joshua has not had an 4 round or sooner KO in a while.