Tyson Fury V Prime Vitali Klitchko - Klitchko s Revenge?

Kirk was overweight and immobile. Its not an example.

KEVIN Johnson is an example of why Vitali ISN'T a pressure fighter. Its on film , you can't argue with the facts.

Joshua brutalized Johnson with non-stop pressure. It was barely a contest. Vitali couldn't even land a hurtful punch on Johnson. Those are the cold hard FACTS

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Thats what pressure looks like. Walking through Johnson with brute force , throwing and landing combinations in close. Pressure isn't standing at mid range prodding Johnson for 12 laughable rounds.

 

So your answer was a tomato can ,a defeat and 6'4 guy?

 

My point was that Fury has beaten more quality big men (his own size). I am not impressed by Vitali's resume.. What is his best win? It does not suggest he would have beaten Fury.

 

Fury has beaten a very old big man, and a glassy jawed and body big man who wasn't very skilled, neither of whom fight like Vitali. He had trouble with Wallin, a box rec ranked #37 type of guy, who would be shut out and stopped vs Vitali. IMO the Lennox Lewis Vitali faced was better than anyone Fury shared the ring with, and Vitali was winning the fight, only stoped on cuts which Fury avoided vs Wallin.

We are talking primes here. Well see how Fury looks vs. a big man with skills who's not old once he faces Joshua.

One could have argued Tyson did well vs big men early in his career therefore should have beaten Douglas and Lewis. Didn't work out that way, and I would say Tyson's resume pre Douglas is better than Fury's currently.

 

How Johnson was ever ranked in the top 10 remains a mystery. Says more about the era than anything. If you watch Vitali's fight with Johnson , it doesn't show a guy that would match up well to Fury.
Joshua destroyed Johnson and most people feel Fury would give Joshua a boxing lesson.

Im still waiting on the examples of Vitali being a pressure fighter. The hard questions are being asked now so this is usually when you dip out of the debate.

Out of all of Vitali fights you mentioned two examples , one being against a guy who the commentators described a beached whale. Being aggressive against overweight Kirk doesn't prove he would attack Fury with the same aggression.
Vitali would need to pressure Fury to be able to land anything significant , unfortunately Vitali was never a pressure fighter so the logical outcome is a wide loss on the scorecards.

 

Perfect reasons in few words

 

No it does not prove that Fury would beat Vitali but my point was simply that Fury has beaten the better quality big men while I agree with you that Vitali's record has more depth. I also agree with you that Old Lewis was better than anybody Fury faced. But he was not better than Prime Fury in my view. Vitali also lost that fight which exposed some of his flaws. Look, to me Fury pulls out a close decision but nobody can know for sure of course.

 

You see this is your problem. You asked for a fights where he was aggressive, I listed some for you. Then you say it doesn't count.

Vitali is an engaging fighter who makes you confront him on his terms. He's more aggressive than Fury, throws more punches and hit harder, ask anyone else here who doesn't see red when Klitschko's name is mentioned. They will tell you. You remain a a troll and not a very good one.

 

Nobody likes or respects a liar.
I asked for pressure , as in going after somebody and cutting the ring off. Walking something down wit aggression.
There's no examples of Vitali fighting that way cos he was exclusively a mid range boxer who liked to keep distance.

Btw , you're now resorting to name calling as you know you've lost the debate.

 

wrong. go watch his early fights. Much different style before the rotator cuff surgery.

Speaking of Vitali---I'm sure you would cut him a bunch of slack if he was the guy busted up and getting a very close disputed win over Wallin.

 

Byrd was an early fight. Ike pressured Byrd from round 2. Vitali stayed at arms length from round 2. He would do the same against Fury , cos what is Vitali meant to do if he cuts the distance? He has no inside game to capitalize.

 

Fury before Wilder II would lose for decision imo...too defensive and low punching power. Besides a defeat for KO wouldnt be surprising

Fury of Wilder II is all another stuff...careful in defence, aggressive at the right time and above all powerful. He would win for UD...I dont see a win for KO by Fury cause Vitalys chin was steel made.

 

that was when his shoulder was tore up . try watching his previous 28 fights. Or did you back then?