Tyson Fury Versus Sonny Liston

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Dec 30, 2024.


Who wins?

  1. Tyson

    31.9%
  2. Sonnt

    68.1%
  1. Alexandrow Vids

    Alexandrow Vids Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder managed to send Fury to the floor several times except for the second fight (where he had the wrong game plan).

    Liston is much more skillfull, harder to hit and even more aggressive than Wilder already was.
    A guy who could never really be thrown off balance in his prime,
    always charging forward like a mad dog to chasing his opponent.

    I would bet on Liston.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston's best wins were not big by the standards of the cruiserweights Usyk beat. There is no evidence that he would beat Fury.
     
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  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury would just be a big target for Liston.
     
  4. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Everything regarding this joke or everything in general? Because I have proof of every claim iv ever made and can provide it if you give me the specific claim you disapprove of.
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    One interesting factor is that Fury’s 85 inch reach would be the first that Liston ever faced to surpass his own at 84 inches.
     
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  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Son, you need help. Your Listonmania is eroding your brain.
     
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  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston hit too hard, and I see his step-in jab getting to Fury.

    Liston floors him four times in 7 rounds and ultimately stops him.
     
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  8. Anomalocaris

    Anomalocaris Member banned Full Member

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    I am so torn.

    I love both and l know most here now regard Fury as a joke and an unsklilled Willard/Carnera type bum (give it 30 years or put his best fights in black and white).

    Both are prime HTH monsters for very different reasons.

    Not going to vote on it.
     
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  9. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    My brain is long since fried with classic boxing and politics.
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Liston (Boxer-Puncher) 6'1, 84' reach, 218 or so, Fury (unorthodox outside fighter) 6'8 85' reach, 265 or so.

    Power Liston
    Speed Fury
    Chin Liston
    Footwork Fury
    Technique Liston
    Punch versatility Liston
    Combination punching Liston (cleaner technique)
    Stamina Fury
    Body shots Liston, although Fury's no slouch
    Ring IQ Fury
    Timing Fury
    Accuracy Liston
    Experience Maybe even
    Heart Fury

    7-1-6 advantage Liston

    I think this really depends on 3 factors: Size of the ring, Fury's condition/state of mind, and the ref's leniency. A smaller ring favors Liston. A Fury who isn't locked in and focused or whose out of shape is, at best, a good sparring partner for Liston. And lastly, if the ref actually starts taking points for excessive clinching and dirty tactics, that also favors Liston.

    The reverse is true obviously. Fury would have a field day in a bigger ring where he's allowed to lean, clinch, foul, and apply his blubber on the big ugly bear, stick and move, flick his loose gloves, use his herky jerky style to confuse Liston, etc. A focused Fury with a lenient ref is a very difficult opponent to beat.

    I think if Fury can find a way to take away Liston's jab and can endure the body shots, the fight is his, but it would be an extremely difficult and tense fight. Gun to my head, I'm guessing the best version of Fury wins 60% of the time by close decision or late round stoppage (the one who beat Wladmir). Later versions of Fury were just too hittable and often in sloppy condition, I mean he went life and death with Wilder and Ngannoun and was nearly KOd by Usyk. Liston would stop that version of Fury.
     
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  11. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Insane.
    I love when people add the most random categories ever just so their guy wins.
     
  12. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Liston just basically was the perfect antithesis to Fury.

    Fury would mostly depend on his size, but Liston was (according to both Ali and Wepner) unbelievably powerful from a physical, holistic perspective.

    Fury without the physical advantage was reduced in effectiveness by at least 40%. I can't see him making it past 7.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Liston stoppage sometime after 7 rounds or so.

    Completely different level of fighter, Liston's jab alone would dictate the entire fight.

    Light hitting cruiser Cunningham had Fury flat on his back staring at the lights with his overhand right. Liston would lump Fury up, bad.
     
  15. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bert Whitehurst made it past 7 twice. Liston is the guy with 3 stoppage losses despite fighting much smaller men
     
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