Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder 3 - Discussion and Poll

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Fury vs Wilder

  1. Fury TKO/KO

    154 vote(s)
    67.2%
  2. Fury decision

    28 vote(s)
    12.2%
  3. Draw

    3 vote(s)
    1.3%
  4. Wilder KO/TKO

    43 vote(s)
    18.8%
  5. Wilder decision

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  1. Wrongun

    Wrongun Member Full Member

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    Wilder is handicapped, his supporters are handicapped, that means you.
    Regardless of what fury fans do, that is facts
     
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  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    skybet offering 3/1 for Wilder to win by KO.

    Surely worth an insurance bet? You never know with Fury.
     
  3. Furious

    Furious Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, seeing as he’s unbeaten it’s not like he’s wildly unpredictable. But yes, at that price definitely worth a bet.
     
  4. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    8 hours to the presser :D
     
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  5. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Active Member Full Member

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    Fury says that about literally every prospective opponent, it's just mind games. He knows what Wilder is and what he isn't but most importantly he respects him as the biggest threat because of his combination of SHW stature, speed, instant fight ending power and explosiveness.
     
  6. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Active Member Full Member

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    The referee won't be as pro-Wilder this time as he's now clearly the B-side and Wilder has lost his 0, so what does it matter to give him another loss? Remember, Fury scored 3-4 KD's in the first fight but only 2 were given, what the fight have kept going if the referee had given him 4 counts? Fury will get more latitude from the referee and the ref will know that the corner won't pull Wilder out, so all the pressure will be on him to stop it. Wilder could easily get himself DQ'd like Tyson in the Holyfield rematch, whether out of a desire to quit or because he loses control. And Fury-Wilder 2 wasn't even 55% through when it was stopped by corner retirement, Fury still had almost half the fight to bash him up, drop him and stop him. It's also possible that Wilder is physically and especially mentally damaged now. Fury TKO is most likely.
     
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  7. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder hasn't tried to box for years: he keeps his distance and uses his height, reach, speed, power and explosiveness to land a KO punch, which he landed on everyone he's fought bar Fury. He showed he could box fairly well 6 years ago against Stiverne, who was top 5 ranked at the time. Fury made Wilder look bummy in the rematch but Fury is a genetic freak and unique in terms of his speed, agility and reflexes for a man of his 6'7.5, 270 lbs size. Just because prime Fury can do something doesn't mean anyone else in the division can.

    Wlad was uninspiring because Fury made him so. Wlad admitted the reasons after the fight: the right hand follows the jab and Wlad couldn't land the jab because Fury was too fast with excellent head and upper-body movement, along with a superior feint game. He needed Fury to slow down but he never did due to his superior gas tank. And he wasn't stronger or heavier than Fury so was at a disadvantage in the clinch. An older, defeated, inactive, away Wlad looked better against AJ because AJ has inferior boxing skills, speed, movement, engine, chin, feints, jab etc. AJ was there to be hit and outboxed, Fury wasn't. Manny Steward seemed to believe that Wlad would outbox anyone in history, so a 26 year old pre-prime Fury's dominant win in Germany is up there with any pure boxing performance.
     
  8. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I honestly feel that Wilder will try all of these new things Malik has been having him do for the last 15 months which wil be evident for a couple rounds. After that when things start heating up I thing he’ll resort right back to what he’s always done and will implode. If he’s going to try and outbox Fury it’s going to be an uphill battle. The only chance he has is to catch Fury with the right hand by utilizing the jab, double jab, and feints. Other then that I just feel Fury has his number and is better technically in all departments except power.
     
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  9. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how the f is that a good bet? He got obliterated last time out
     
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  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is a great bet.. Id put one either rd 1-6 or 7-12 KO... I would not rule out Wilder whatsoever
     
  11. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It will be a miracle if Wilder comes out for R3, I think Fury takes him out in R1.
     
  12. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tickets on sale now at AXS

    Decent tickets start from $700!
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad was past is though, i think Fury beats any version of Wlad but doubt, he was past it
     
  14. UFC2020

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    Wilder has already lost with his ***** behaviour in the press conference
     
  15. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Active Member Full Member

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    It's difficult not to be at 39.5 years old but Wlad had remarkable longevity: compare him at 41 to Povetkin, who himself aged pretty well. Wlad from the Haye fight had to be a little sharper in terms of reflexes but in terms of physical strength, experience, technical skills and confidence (22 successive wins, 15 by KO) minus Fury's mind games, Wlad was as good or better than he'd ever been. The Wlad from the Ibragimov or Haye fights wouldn't have faired any better because the problem was physical, technical and stylistic: he'd never faced a big man who was faster and more skilled than himself, let alone an unambiguously bigger man. It's also a neglected fact that 26.25 year old Fury was pre-prime in a time when most heavyweights, especially larger heavyweights, peak in their early 30's.

    The biggest Wlad fan on the internet (who disappeared shortly after Fury beat Wlad) acknowledged that Fury was a stylistic nightmare for Wlad and would have beaten any Steward incarnation:
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    He suggested that Wlad needed a couple of tune up fights for a new aggressive style which would allow him to KO Fury. But the reason why Wlad didn't let his hands go was the risk of being countered (possibly while off balance or not seeing the counter) and his gas tank being drained by throwing too many shots. He also believed that corrupt German judges would give him the win so there was no need to take risks. Fury was also stronger in the clinch and the better inside fighter, leaving Wlad with too few advantages to expect to win with any kind of regularity.