Tyson Fury vs George Foreman - that time again?

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's break this down.

    Gets caught with Nandrolone in 2015

    Avoids Wlad contractually obligated rematch.

    Comes back, chooses Wilder over aj for objectively less money.

    Fights Otto Wallin and Tom Schwarz who are unranked instead of any real contenders.

    Fights Wilder a second time.

    Fights Wilder a 3rd time.

    Makes a title defense against Whyte.

    Ducks Usyk for 2 years while fighting old Chisora a THIRD time and an mma fighter instead of any prime contenders.

    Loses to Usyk for 100 million dollars. So in short, he's overrated, his legacy isn't up to par and he's getting eclipsed by the next generation.
     
  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cool irrelevant to the matchup
     
  3. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Member Full Member

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    All that and he still slaps Foreman around worse than he did to women, such a shame.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol just stfu dude. I don't know them and neither do you or the events that occurred, so stop being so emotional with the buzzwords. None of that has anything to do with the match up and your view on Furys h2h status is based on pure fantasy. "Oh uh Fury is Zeus in the ring and mauls every cruiserweight in history and is a 6 foot 9 version of Ali with Floyd Mayweather iq and uh his size and skill make him h2h nightmare despite ducking top contenders and getting embarrassed by mma fighters"

    He has struggled in so many fights despite having a thin resume, he can't be as good as you believe him to be. That's the bottom line.
     
  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    He had a long time to make the Joshua fight. He did not want it.

    He ducked a rematch out of Wlad.

    He was ducking Usyk left and right until Turki stepped in.

    Again, let's give him a pass on Joshua. We are talking depth here. Its not just about fighting a few elite names. A true great fights the very very good ones.

    Styles make fights. Foreman destroyed Norton and Norton beat Ali. Imagine if Foreman dismissed the Ali fight saying he had already beaten the guy who beat Ali.

    There are tons of stylistically different fighters. Fighting a dangerous body puncher like Kabayel is a unique challenge as is fighting a tall hard hitting left hander like Zhang. And that is a different challenge than fighting, say a Povetkin, or a Parker and so on.

    Fury has a paper thin resume. He has missed fighting pretty much everyone except 3 big names. Missed fighting Zhang, Joyce, Kabayel, Parker, Povetkin and many others.

    He struggled to beat a gatekeeper in Wallin and was arguably gifted a decision vs a debutant MMA fighter.

    He isn't some outstanding ATG. He has done nothing to favour him over Foreman.
     
  6. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Member Full Member

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    Don't feel so guilty that you've been supporting a diddler this whole time, you can stop worshipping him today!
    Of course it doesn't, I told you from the beginning that I don't take you seriously on this lmao, you don't know jackshyte. Nothing more than another old-head stuck in Nostalgia.
    This same line of logic leaves us with Young > Ali, Purrity > Wlad and Golota > Bowe. But please, keep ignoring everything and hyper-focusing on the Ngannou match, that's all you can do anyway.
    So did Douglas before he manhandled Tyson. Norton before he beat tf out of Ali. Again, you don't know how any of this works, Fury having a thin resume concerns his legacy, not his h2h ability. We know from his performances against Wilder, Wlad and Usyk that when he shows up ready to throw it down, he is dangerous. We have seen against Usyk and Wlad that he can box at long range against anyone, we have seen against Wilder that he can walk somebody down and maul them up close and we have seen against Wallin that he is a hell of an inside fighter when he needs to be. We have seen him mix it up with ridiculous athleticism on top of it in his prime against Chisora II and Hammer. He's good. Deal with it.
     
  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Fury tastes the canvas maybe even more on one occasion, but he will get up, outlast Foreman’s early onslaught and either win by stoppage late or win a close decision.

    Fury is awkward, quick and smart enough to evade most of what George dishes out and punish him if he gets too brave. Keep in mind that while Fury doesn’t hit that hard when compared to his fellow giants, he is still a 250+ pound man and has enough pop to keep George humble and from throwing TOO much.

    He also has the tools to punish George as well, he more than held his own at range against Usyk especially in those middle rounds of their first fight. That type of body work, especially in the later stages of the fight, will really hurt George here.
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His h2h ability is severely effected by him struggling in fights that he shouldn't have despite having a thin resume. All the greats have lost. Usyk struggled with Briedis, Chisora, Hunter, and they don't get anywhere near the credit that Fury has. All the greats have had struggles because they fight top guys back to back

    When you haven't beaten several top guys like Mike Tyson and still look like crap on numerous occasions you're not getting the benefit of the doubt just because your big. Fury is not like Vitali who dominated almost all of his competition, lost little rounds and never got dropped 10 times, 4 times by a 1 trick pony with less boxing ability than Jack Dempsey. Wladimir was 40 and lost to aj in his next fight. Thats all folks
     
  9. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Member Full Member

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    40 year old Wlad and Wilder would beat literally anyone Mike Tyson beat in the 80s. It's you whose not giving Fury the credit he deserves by cherrypicking his bad performances and ignoring the things he actually accomplished. No one can change your mind on this because your opinion doesn't come from facts, it comes from pure bias against Fury.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And now we're back to pure fantasy, because Fury doesn't have the tangibles. Predictable

    Old Wlad with his old man reflexes and weak chin would get obliterated by Mike Tyson. How about that ? He couldn't even beat a gassed aj. Foreman would walk through old Wladimir. Is 40 year old Klitschko even a favorite over past it Holmes ?

    Wilder would get schooled Tony Tucker it would not even be close. He would dance all over Deontay and had the chin to go 12 with power punchers. This isn't 50 year old Luis Ortiz. Tony Tubbs could beat Wilder. Ruddock is a better version of Deontay Wilder :risas3: Bruno can beat Wilder if he lands first and he has the boxing ability and power to do it. Spinks is a pfp great and would clown Wilder like he clowned Cooney, the boxing ability is vast.
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Barrios is a bandit robber - Psalm 144:1 Full Member

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    Nah dawg - Fury fought the puncher of his generation 3x, Wladmir Klitschko, Whyte, Cunningham and Chisora etc - not much between him and a guy who beat Frazier, Norton and Lyle… cmon don’t be like that, both don’t exactly have deep resumes but Fury at one time at least made it to being the best heavyweight in the world.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    He did? Do you have proof or were they unproven allegations? Did they even get to court?
     
  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Foreman didn't fight Fury at 220 lbs.
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    231lbs against John 'Dino' Denis, and maybe Foreman would be heavier. IMHO the border between HW and SHW is 235lbs. So I assume that Foreman in a fight with Fury would be a "modern super heavyweight". Seeing the knockdowns of Cunningham, Pajkic, Wilder, and Ngannou, I come to the conclusion that Foreman would also "get through" some punches. And that would be very bad for Fury. Foreman's chin imho is not worse than Fury's.
    I'm talking about a young Foreman, and I think that Foreman would win the fight by knockout in a fight that would have been Fury's win by points up to that point.
     
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  14. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Member Full Member

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    Sure unc, don’t forget the meds.
     
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  15. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is zero chance of Fury cracking Foreman’s chin so therefore he is going to have to jab and run for 12 rounds.

    That means Foreman has 36 minutes to chin Fury. It’s a stone cold certainty that at some point Foreman catches Fury and ices him.

    Foreman KO at whatever round you like.