Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is ON

Wilders Draw against prime undefeated ATG fury is arguably better than any of AJs wins. That doesn’t seem an outrageous claim.

 

I honestly don’t think you have. You’ve got serious issues and that shows with your post alone (on a Saturday morning, get a grip) and what is going on with your pathetic poster name. Embarrassing.

 

He lost the fight by a country mile for starters you idiot.

 

brixtons having a tuff time mate its a great time for boxing fury usyk for undisputed its great some folk cant hack it

 

Still on the journey to fighting shape, losing 140lbs Fury draw is not better than the Parker, Klitschko, Povetkin and Ruiz wins. You can’t truly believe this?

 

i think most boxing fans believe that mate in fact im shocked youd word it like that as if its hard to believe lol a fury draw is easily better then parker povetkin n ruiz wins is it better than klichko win maybe no cos even tho he was past it its still a win against a good boxer its debatable n thats what the fella was saying parker povetkin and ruiz lol your having a laff

 

"Still on the journey to fighting shape, losing 140lbs"

If Fury felt in terrible shape then he wouldn't have got in the ring.

"You can’t truly believe this?"

If you think outpointing a 284 lbs Andy Ruiz in a big Saudi ring is more impressive than getting a draw with Fury then I don't know what to tell you. You've already stated you think Wilder would have beaten Wlad easier than Joshua did, so obviously the Fury draw is the best result in your own terms:

"Yes Wilder would have knocked him out before it even got to that point. The effort that AJ put in at the start of the 5th is what Wilder would have started with. No matter what you think about Wilder there’s no denying his heart and desire to win."

 

As far as I can tell I only have one at the moment and that's you.

You might want to Google Murderers' Row and boxing, you tit.

 

With AJ's British stoppage ref Wilder beats Fury by KO, immediately waved off in the 12th and the win is generally regarded as legit.

 

very good point mate vladimir was stopped when he wasn't out of it in fact all the punches throwen by joshua were hitting gloves and arms at the end

 

Takam too. That fight was probably going the distance and Takam vehemently protested the stoppage.

 

funny how vladimir said joshua was next big thing they hated fury didnt they they knew he was better then vladimir

 

Interesting way of looking at it

 

Yes. Wlad was desperate for Joshua to beat Fury (who completely humiliated P4P No.6 champ Wlad in Dusseldorf in a one-sided schooling) but I don't think he really believed it. For instance, before Wlad fought Fury he said "AJ may not be ready right now but in a few years I think he can beat Fury". So he didn't rate Fury THAT highly before the fight but still thought he'd beat AJ at that point. After the fight Wlad knew: "I was amazed how fast Fury was, he is unbelievably agile for a big man, I didn't think he could keep it up for 12 rounds" etc. Wlad also implied that Wilder would beat AJ, despite being a massive AJ fanboy:

“It would be a dangerous fight for Joshua. I’m not saying he wouldn’t win it but Wilder has something. Due to his weight, he is extremely fast. He has good power in his hands and he’s extremely fast. Maybe he’s kind of wild in his technique but those punches are coming from who knows where. He is hard to defend against: where is that punch going to land and which side is it coming from? Joshua has all-around more capability but Wilder is taller than Joshua and is faster than Joshua. He doesn’t have the weight behind his punches but he is extremely fast, and it would depend upon what kind of mood both fighters were in.” - W. Klitschko, 2018

 

Winning against any boxer is better the a draw. Come on! Am I the only one who thinks this is crazy?

I don’t understand what my opinion on how Wilder Klitschko goes has any relevance to this debate?

Firstly it’s debatable if Wilder even deserved a draw in the first Fury fight and secondly how are we comparing draws to actual wins? In a boxing match winning is everything he’s a fighter can show heart in their defeats but comparing a draw to win is ludicrous.

Vito Antuofermo’s draw with Hagler isn’t what we remember Joey Zazas bodyguard for