Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is ON

one of most funny things read on the forum winning against any boxer better than draw lol

 

why is it funny? So I’m assuming like most of the posters on here you’ve fought amateur at some point of your life. Would a draw rank higher in amateur then a win? I’d have taken a draw over a loss but never a draw over a win.

 

what a stupid argument is a win over dave allen better than draw over fury answer that mate you just said any win is better than a draw

 

"Winning against any boxer is better the a draw."

Lunatic statement. So decisioning Dave Allen or Tom Little is better than drawing with Ali/Fury. You're embarrassing yourself.

"I don’t understand what my opinion on how Wilder Klitschko goes has any relevance to this debate?"

You said Wilder would have beaten Wlad more easily than Joshua did. Therefore his 2 knockdown draw with Fury (who schooled and dethroned Wlad away from home) is more valuable than Joshua's life and death win at home against a man you say Wilder would have beaten with relative ease.

"Firstly it’s debatable if Wilder even deserved a draw"

Sure it's debatable. It's also equally true that if the referee had stopped the fight in the 12th, Wilder wins and it's not considered controversial. "Even if Fury had somehow got up, Wilder would have finished him" would have been the consensus. I don't think any A-side home heavyweight champion has knocked down a defensive challenger twice in a fight and come away with a loss. Fury knew the political dynamics of the situation and underestimated Wilder but Wilder was (and to many still is) an easy man to underestimate in certain respects.

"Vito Antuofermo’s draw with Hagler isn’t"

Vitali's LOSS to Lewis is largely what he's rated for, a draw is far better than a loss btw. Your stock can go up in defeat, legitimate defeat or otherwise. And it can go down in victory.

 

This is what Fury haters are reduced to: "arguing" that a points win over Dave Allen is better than drawing with Ali or Fury. Comical.

 

Google? Never heard of it.

 

Apology is fine.

 

Sorry Charley

 

Apology accepted.

 

Ruiz put 140lbs on for the rematch, bad example.

VLADD and Povetkin shot to pieces old men. Matchroom's favourite treat to feed to their house fighters.
Joey twelve paper champ parker went life and death with whyteleafe/chisora level guys. Joyce showed how a proper heavy handles a feather fisted plodder like joey twelve.

 

*Three week notice CARLITO Takam

 

Wait, is @Sonny1 that brixton runt?

 

Short notice works both ways, it can make it more of a roulette and result in the big favourite being upset. Look at Ruiz-Joshua 1, Puritty-Wlad and Byrd-Vitali. Josh is a low IQ robot and needs meticulous preparation for a given opponent, otherwise he malfunctions.

Hearn is always desperate to save the show even at the cost of proper prep for AJ, penny wise and pound foolish. Even old 6 day notice Helenius was able to bust Joshua's face up pretty badly with the jab, dent AJ's confidence and add wear. "I can't land the right hand" - AJ. Interesting that Wilder had no problem landing the right hand in round 1.

Funnily enough, Helenius is the only tall puncher AJ's fought since Wlad. Make of that what you will.

 

Don’t be ridiculous I’m Sonny1 and no one else.

 

check again who you were replying to wig it wasnt sonny thats all ill say bud