Tyson Fury vs. the "Mount Rushmore of HW chins"; Assessment

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How good a chin does Tyson Fury have? Rating

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  3. 8

  4. 7

  5. 6

  6. 5

  7. 4

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/mount-rushmore-of-hw-chins.713014/
    If Oliver McCall is the gold standard for HW Chin (rated 10), where does Tyson Fury stand compared to George Chuvalo, Larry Holmes, Mohammad Ali, Randall Cobb...?
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    My rating is 9 because of the knockdown in the Fury Vs Wilder 1 fight, when it could have been a knockout.
     
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  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    An 8, with good powers of recovery. I just don't see Usyk hurting an 9 or a 10 like that. Even an 8 seems high to get hurt like that but I guess they can be with a perfect shot from a guy who's not a big puncher.
     
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  3. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury doesn't have a great chin IMO, he has good defence and exceptional recovery powers though

    His recovery would be 9/10 and I think this is different from chin, which i'd have as average given he's been put down a number of times
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    7/8 with elite recovery powers although now with age he is becoming less durable after years of abuse in and out of the ring. He never panics when hurt and his head is always clear.

    He got concussed in that 3rd wilder fight in round 4 yet managed to fight through it in a war even though his body was in poor condition. He literally got KO'd asleep in that 1st Wilder fight and the gods of war revived him a truly historic moment in boxing. He was out on his feet against Usyk and managed to stumble around for 30 seconds and make the end of the round although he wilted heavily once the count got called and was lucky it was the end of the round. All of his fights prior he actually got stronger when clipped or hurt seemingly galvanizing him and refocusing his efforts e.g. Cunningham.

    His defensive instincts when are hurt top tier. Most people who take them shots are unable to find any level of composure.

    I think now Fury is at his physical end it would be very risky for him to get caught by someone like Dubious but 'd expect him to box a blinder like Usyk. Usyk has a few more knocks in his tank but wouldn't be surprised if he got put clean out by the right punch, it can happen. Usyk puts himself in a position to get hit by that kind of punch so rarely though. It would require exquisite timing and setup from an opponent. Meanwhile Fury puts himself in bad positions needlessly much more often.

    There is reason the two lighter hitting men rule the division and that's skills and footwork negate any plodding power puncher all day long.
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chin 7, nothing special but recovery is an 11/10
     
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  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Usyk didn't do it in one punch.
    Wilder 1 was a left hand, and if it had been Wilder's nuclear right, he would have been knocked out.
    Wilder 3 Shockwave went too high to the forehead and not to the chin. If Shockwave had gone to the chin it would have been a knockout.
    Big puncher didn't give Tyson Fury the perfect punch.
    9 (recovery counts as chin)
    Wilder is the third HW puncher of all time:
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/mount-rushmore-of-hw-punchers.709690/
     
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  7. chaunceygardina

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    Chin and recovery need to be separated here. Some people are just born with a strong mandible and cranium, and obviously neck muscle training can further durability. I don't think Fury has a great chin, but certainly has great overall recovery however
     
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  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chin nothing special, but ATG recovery abilities, instincts to protect himself when hurt bad, and focus when hurt. Always gets up, returns to being able to fight effectively very quickly, never panics or does the wrong thing when hurt. Even when he’s out on his feet or real bad off, he somehow does everything possible to protect himself and give himself the chance to recover.

    basically, for everything involving recovery, it doesn’t get better. He’s tied with guys like Holyfield and Ali. Absolute top of the mountain ATG recovery ability.
     
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  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    If you look at the chin and recovery together, then I look at it like this.
    If Tyson Fury hasn't gotten punched by Wlad (big punher) in his career, he's gotten punched by Wilder, Walin, Ngannou and Usyk.
     
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    That's why recovery plus chin equals 9.
     
  11. chaunceygardina

    chaunceygardina Member Full Member

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    Some boxers can take, what some get put down by. I think Usyk has shown this recently
     
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  12. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's weird people try to separate chin from recovery powers. Falling over isn't really just chin, it's also about body mechanics balance etc.
    In boxing you get punished for it but you can be more concussed standing up as everyone knows with the flash KD's and on the feet stoppages.

    What counts really is this: How much concussive damage can a fighter take and continue? In that sense Fury has (or had) a very good chin since he's taken punches from some of the biggest KO strikers out there and not been stopped.

    I think the reason he 'recovers' is because he was never so concussed he couldn't continue.

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  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    This is the most correct answer.
    Because the average of 7 chin and 11 recovery equals 9 in total :)
     
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  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sounds about right
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chin is definitely not a 9 he was floored by Pajkic with a single punch who only had 4 stoppages.

    Cunningham decked him with a single shot and Fury outweighed by like 50 pounds and Cunningham showed no real notable power at Heavyweight.

    I'd say Fury's chin is between 6.5/7.0 with his recuperative powers being higher than that.

    To put it into perspective fighters like Holmes, Ali, had pretty much double the amount of fights as Fury and were tested alot more than Fury and they suffered less than half the knockdowns that Fury has.

    Ali fought over 30 ranked opponents.

    Holmes fought like 17 ranked opponents.

    Fury has only fought 4 ranked opponents and he's suffered like 10 knockdowns is it ? And half of them have come against unranked opposition.
     
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