Tyson Fury vs Usyk is ON

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  1. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prize fighting is painful, dangerous and every fight could be your last. If I was a pro boxer I'd be greedy for the highest pay day too.
     
  2. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree they’re all out to make the most money they can, but not to the degree Fury has handled this potential fight


    Fury goes well beyond the business-sense boundaries and takes it to a new low of being disgusting as a person and very unprofessional as a businessman

    I think he has lost a lot of fans over how he has handled this potential fight, and rightfully so
     
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  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is at the top end of the hard negotiators, that's for sure but provided the fight gets made I couldn't give a dam who banks what.
     
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  4. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think what Fury is doing is good for boxing. Netflix, followed by the crossover fight, followed by the title unification. All in a short time span. He is building momentum. Not just for himself but also for boxing.

    Fury is trying to bring boxing to a broader audience. This is the age of Netflix, Instagram, and social media. Fury is working it.
     
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  5. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Riddick bowe and ruiz also predict fury will win .
     
  6. Wasteman

    Wasteman Certified Wasteman Full Member

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    Took his bloody time but fair play.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    And James Toney
     
  8. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Sam Langford P4P GOAT Full Member

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    This fight is going to have a lot of hype built up and fail to deliver.

    Think about the 2 fighters styles and having them in a tactical 12 round bout. It might be about as exciting as Pac vs Floyd.
     
  9. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I can't see it being anything other than entertaining. A fight of this magnitude will have everyone on the edge of their seats, even if the fight is dull the excitement will be palpable.
     
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  10. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I often wondered at what sort of values and mindset one has to have to say they dislike such a guy as Usyk.

    Not only the guy is doing all the right things in the ring and as a champion, but much more importantly, he is a very decent human being too. Oftentimes, celebrities and sports stars have flawed characters but more often than not their fans (and people in general) forgive them because they are that good at what they do. In other words, you make concessions.

    Usyk, on the other hand, doesn't have these skeletons in the closet. No drug cheating, no clashing with the law, no involvement with mobs, drugs or guns whatsoever, no sexual abuse allegations, no violent behaviour against civilians, no DUI, no thrashing of hotel rooms or beating up prostitutes, nothing. No wacky views about Flat Earth or lizard people or Bill Gates controlling the world via G5, and no controversial rants about gays, Jews, blacks, whites, no stories about him cheating on his wife or beating his kids, nothing. None of that s**t. Heck, even though his countrymen are being killed daily in a terrible war, he doesn't even rant about the Russians or Russian athletes in general (quite a few Ukrainians in other sports do).

    He is that very rare combination where he is world-class in his profession and he is and has always been totally free of any controversy. So anyone who claims they genuinely don't like Usyk for whatever reason, must be not right in the head. It's fine if you are not a fan. It's fine if you say you have no opinion of the guy either way. But to totally go to the other end of the scale and claim you actively and genuinely dislike someone decent and likeable like that? That takes some loose screws in the head.
     
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  11. Bob Dobalina

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    High risk, very low reward for Fury. If he wins, we’ll hear that it’s because Usyk is too old to deal with such a size gap.
     
  12. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who says it'd only have to be one or the other? No reason it can't end up being both :thumbsup:

    I'm actually expecting a close fight, but every now and then my mind wanders in a different direction. It's just cause I'm a much bigger fan of Usyk than I am of Fury, but sometimes I find myself thinking Usyk is gonna continue the trend Inoue and Bud started back in July. Pound for pound greats absolutely destroying competition that was supposed to give them a hard go.

    Again though, that just comes from me being a big Usyk fan and wanting a definitive ending to the fight. Fury ain't Fulton or Spence, so I kinda doubt that the fight will play out similarly. My actual expectation is more like a very close decision that could go either way. But man, it'd be something to see Usyk become undisputed in such a definitive fashion against a man who has him beat in weight and reach.

    Regardless, can't wait to see how this fight plays out. Gonna be a real nailbiter :ggg
     
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  13. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sadly, that's just the reality of boxing these days. Excuses come in from the more rabid side of the fanbases and then the casual side shrugs their shoulders and says "He lost, so he must not have been very good anyways." A Fury win means Usyk was old and too small and should have never been fighting at heavyweight, but if Usyk wins, it'll only be because Fury's bad habits caught up with him, and it'll turn out Fury was just a fat junkie whose best wins were an old man and a one dimensional puncher.

    But, there are those of us in the middle, the guys who are far from casuals but are able to appreciate a good fight even when their favorite fighter loses, who will be able to say "We got a hell of a fight from it, and that's the most important part."
     
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  14. mrbigshot

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    This is a bit childish imho . Nobody of us knows usyk personally but we all know every boxer of public interest is highly promoted . So what we see in public statements and infront of cameras might or might not reflect his true character .

    I skip judging any of the boxers by personal character preference but judge them all solely by sporting achievements .
     
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  15. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    The "you can't tell of someone if they are at least decent without knowing them personally" is the oldest and most tired excuse for justifying s***y personalities. Besides, if you know someone personally, quite often even that doesn't mean anything at all. People constantly get disappointed by their spouses, family members, friends and people in general they think they know everywhere in the world on a daily basis. Heck, whenever there's a story of someone in the news who one day loses it and murders their family, all the neighbours and friends say in the media afterwards "but we've known him for so long, he was always so nice and quiet, we never would have thought he would do something like this".

    My point was: Usyk is already a more decent human being on a basic level than the vast majority of celebrities/professional athletes as he, unlike most of his famous peers, doesn't have a track record of controversial things in his life.