Tyson Fury vs Vitali Klitschko ?

Fury on points. He is the better fighter techncially and defensively. Vital with bis lean back defense would get caught as he was against Lewis.

 

Vitali can't bail himself out with his power or strength. He loses badly here. His brother was always the more skilled fighter. Fury has a hell of a chin and even better recovery. He is actually the bigger man here, faster, better foot work, better combinations, better defense, and can switch between boxer puncher and mover or even between southpaw and Orthodox.

Vitali looks so much more robotic and mediocre in comparison, relying on his size and and textbook technique to overcome his deficiencies in athleticism. I think fury might actually manage to stop him within 10 if he's aggressive.

 

Fury is quicker, better footwork, better defense, better feints, taller and rangier. Prime Vitali probably has better stamina

 

LOL, Vitali is more active, hits harder and is himself hard to hit. Fury could not hurt him but the reverse is true. Who the bigger man here depends on if Fury is in shape.

Cursier weight have shaken up Fury. No way Fury could take it over the course of the distance for Vitali, who unlike his brother, loves to trade and can counter.

I see the Wilder fans are quickly pivoting. Chris Arreola could be viewed as Wilder's top two opponents best win. Look what Vitali did to him and Arreola was in his prime when Vitali easily whipped him.

Fury wasn't super accurate on Wilder, he just was accurate enough, aggressive and put his weight down on his pin legs, and exposing his limitations.

Fury was also getting a little tired, Vitali gives his opponent no quarter. Make no mistake, Fury has one win over a top 5 guy in his prime, and it's Wilder. Wilder stock is going down. Five years form now Fury's best win might not look as good. I predict it won't if Wilder gets stopped again by a lesser fighter which he will if he presses on.

Vitali via UD or late round TKO.

 

Who's the best fighter Vitali beat? Sanders? Gomez? Adamek? Peters? There's no career defining fight other than Lennox

 

Vitali has better wins. Its too bad Lewis would not re-match, he was gassed and down 4-2 on all cards but his performance there showed his quality.

 

-Vitali is so hard to hit a 38 year Lennox turned his face into a leaking faucet. Stop.

-Vitali does not hit significantly harder, if at all. He simply hits more often. He's a volume puncher. A guy his size should have a highlight reel of brutal KO's but he doesn't. He's a stiff robotic arm puncher and most of his KO's are stoppages with the guy on his feet.

-Fury got off the floor against wilder who hits 3x harder than vitali. You are not winning this discussion. Cut it out.

-who is the bigger man is not a debate. Fury is taller with longer arms and heavier. Cut it out.

-Chris arreola? Wilder dropped him and stopped him in 8 despite having a broken right hand. Vitali had 2 healthy hands and unloaded on arreola for 10 rounds and couldn't drop him. You look really silly bringing this fight up. Once again showing how vitali's power is overrated.

-Fury was very accurate in the wilder rematch. Did you even watch the fight? He landed several flush power jabs, body shots, big looping right hands and flurries.

-Vitali is not stopping fury you are drunk. Especially if fury decides to use his legs and move.

 

Fury would box him silly.

 

Mistakes here. Lewis himself said Vitali was hard to hit! And he was 37, not 38.

Wilder hit how hard? He failed to stop his best opponent and took another limited guy who was Ko'd by a fighter with a losing record the distance. Tommy Morrison absolutely destroyed guys. But the power wasn't the same vs. class opponents.

Fury is maybe an inch taller. That's it. I don't count flab for being the bigger man.

Dude, Fury was rocked at hurt by a Cruiser weight, and nearly KO'd by Wilder. His chin was just good enough. Vitali could KO or TKO him. If you say that can't happen, then you don't know much about Vitali who stopped guys with top chins such as Donald, and Purity. In fact Vitali stopped his guys faster in almost all cases than all other opponents. Some said he hit harder than Foreman and Tyson. Vitali at one point stopped 35 men in 37 fights. Wanna figure out that KO% Injuries prevent the two he did not stop. When fighters age, the KO % goes down. Wilder didn't face many top ten guys, his KO% is inflated with mediocre fighters, Vitali's is not.

Yes-- I watched the match. Fury missed often on a Wilder who had no legs under him and was never known for defense. Fury landed 30.7 percent of his punches in the fight. Is that very accurate?

[url]https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11022901/tyson-fury-deontay-wilder-boxing-punch-stats/[/url]

Who had more power in their frame or who took the better punch is not debatable. Vitali beat a prime Arreola who was ranked inside Ring Magazine's top 10, badly outclassing him. Wilder fought Arreola on the slide ranked 40th at Box rec. See a difference?

With lots corrected here, what's left to be seen if you take them in as facts.

 

Lewis can say whatever he wants, he still turned Vitali's face into a leaky faucet at 37. Sanders chisora and Peter also landed some good shots. Vitali was no defensive wizard or extremely elusive, he was simply very good at outclassing men who were shorter and less skilled than him. He fought in an era full of flat footed sluggers, many of whom were obese or had stamina issues.

Foreman failed to KO his best opponent Ali. Guess all his power was a myth. Tyson coudnt stop Holyfield. Max Baer couldn't KO Braddock. Is this the line of reasoning your using? Because if so it crumbles very quickly with basic logic.

Fury 6'9 85 inch reach
Vitali 6-7 79 inch reach.

Fury is taller with longer arms and his average weight is higher than Vitali. This is not a debate and it's the last time im going to address it. I do not care about your feelings or opinions when it comes to official measurements. Look up the word "bigger" since you seem to be confused.

Fury hasn't been KO'd despite facing Chisora 2x, Wilder 2x and Wladmir. His cjin cannot be questioned at this point. At the very least you have to acknowledge he has amazing recuperative powers. Point being Vitali's power isn't going to be enough when wilder coudnt ko him so chin would be the last thing for fury to worry about.

30% isn't bad for trying to land on a lanky 6'7 guy with long arms whose constantly covering up or clinching. Show me the tall elusive world class opponents Vitali managed to land accurately on? Above 30% preferably since according to you that's bad?

Yes i can clearly see the difference. Vitali had a flat footed brawler right in front of him for 10 rounds and didnt manage to drop him let alone KO him. Wilder dropped the same guy and stopped him faster than Vitali did with a broken hand. Im very confused why you're trying to use this fight to somehow prove Vitalis punching power.

Maybe we should look at some of Vitali's other awesome displays of punching power? Like when he had an obese cave man Samuel Peter right in front of him and couldnt drop him? Or a 38 year old chubby corrie Sanders? Or a wheezing asthmatic flat footed punching bag shannon Briggs? He just doesn't have the snap or explosiveness. I don't fault him for it, probably either genetics or a lack of athleticism. He had to pound away at guys to force the ref or corner to stop it and he doesn't have the skill to pin down fury and pound away at him.

 

Vitally is a lot busier, and I think that would make it hard for Fury to play his usual game.

 

Vitali is a guy who specialises in boxing from the outside. Prodding from the outside is his one and only dimension.

Not going to work agasint Fury. Too slow and way too open. Fury would box rings around him and Vitali would look completely lost tyring to figure out what to do.

Fury is all wrong for Vitali.
Speed , Defence , versatility , IQ , footwork. Multi dimensions beats single dimensions

 

It's kickboxing technique of arm punching imo because his brother could obviously bang

I mean it worked for him, in terms of being able to maintain a very high workrate. This would be the main issue Furry would have, although his workrate is pretty good. I do think he'd need to hold, feint to slow the pace down

Meanwhile Wlad's supperior powerpunching was a bit stiff, which meant it used up loads of energy he tired in some fights (Brewster and that journeyman) that saw him lose.

 

Fury makes him look like the stiff he always was