Tyson Fury will shock you all...

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  1. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When he toys with Wilder from the outside and tires him out in the clinch en route to a UD. He's never fought anyone with the size and movement of Tyson. Gerald Washington outboxed him at range with his length minus the movement. Spzilka outboxed him with movement and speed minus the length. Ortiz was giving him trouble with his activity.

    Tyson has the skill and athleticism to more effectively utilize each of the attributes Wilder's toughest tests used against him in and an effective long jab to top it off. Wilder won't land his telegraphed to hell saving grace right hand on an elusive Fury. He's too stationary to nullify Tyson's footwork and isn't effective enough as a counter puncher to avoid being thrown off by Tyson's constant jittery fienting.

    I fully understand being hesitant to pick him due to his 2 year coke, alcohol and Mcdonalds binge, blowing up to 400+ pounds and coming back against two complete bums. But this isn't Joshua he's fighting. Wilders got elite power with semi elite to merely decent everything else. And his best win came against an overly reckless Ortiz. Take Ortiz (and perhaps Dustin Nichols) away and there isn't much substance.
     
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  2. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is only one certainty about this fight....

    ...whoever loses will be written off as an overrated bum who was never that good anyway. :)
     
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  3. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As of a couple days ago, the poll was like 55/45. There's no "shock" involved no matter who wins. Only if Wilder outboxes him comprehensively or Fury stops him early would there be a shock.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He won't shock me because I expect that he will win.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Some will definitely spin it that way. But I prefer to see it in a more positive light.

    If Fury loses it's because he isn't the fighter he once was, 3 years out, drugs, depression gaining 140lbs all ruined him. How could all that not effect his performance?

    If Wilder loses he already proved he was world class by beating Ortiz and just lost to a better fighter in Fury that had already beaten Wlad.
     
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  6. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I love his attitude to life & boxing now. Hope he smashes the ****
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think you can ever count Fury out, he's the underdog only because of his time out and the troubles he's had. If he can get back to 80% he wins a clear decision, but that's a big if. We'll probably know pretty early on how much Fury has left, if he's shot I expect Wilder to blast him out pretty quickly but if he's still got something left then he'll be racking up the rounds and making Wilder look bad from the outset.
     
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  8. makzy

    makzy Member Full Member

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    This fight has Groves vs Eubank written all over it, Fury is just levels above Wilder. Wilder only has a chance because of Fury's inactivity but I still expect Fury to school him and knock him out in the end.
     
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  9. Hankey89

    Hankey89 Member Full Member

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    Fury has probably been more active in the last year, than he was proceeding the Wlad fight. People need to stop making excuses if he gets beat. He was inactive because he got banned for steroids.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wilder will be hiding behind his gimp mask full time after this fight.
     
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  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    That's a certainty. Boxing history has shown that multiple times .Your only as good as your last fight when your winning. The way this fight will pan out ,whoever loses will be relegated to lowly contender status .
    The winner ?..The next coming of Ali /Louis rolled in to one .
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Or Calzacheee v Lacey .
     
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  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, by how hard he bounces off the mat after getting KTFO.
     
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  14. Gomo

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    I think the only question in this fight that's matters is can Tyson come close took his klitscko form after all that time out and weight loss. If he can he does all the above and wins comfortably. If he can't he gets stopped.

    Basically, it's all down to Tyson imo.

    Wilder isn't on his level however is his level much lower than it was 3 years ago...

    We will only know on the night and that's what makes this fight 50/50 it's the unknown
     
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  15. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    yes it is shock wilder has everything in his favour
     
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