Very disappointing if it turns out to be true, but I can't say I'm surprised. I really feel like if the two ever meet in the ring it will be a 50-50 fight, although apparently Fury doesn't agree with me. He either thinks Usyk could hand him his first loss and doesn't wanna risk that, which is what I'm gonna lead toward if this fails to get made yet again, or he's convinced himself he's the greatest heavyweight boxer who ever lived and doesn't feel the need to prove it against someone he thinks he wouldn't get credit for beating anyways (what with the "blown up cruiserweight" accusations by some, although frankly that's a load of bull****). Given how crazy he can get I could see either one being the explanation. If it's the latter it'll be a great tragedy for the sport, because the man is a hell of a boxer and it'll be a shame if he's a "I don't need to prove anything" sort of guy instead of a "I wanna keep on proving this" type. If the fight with Usyk fails to get made and he sets his focus on whatever it is he wants to do with those MMA guys, I kinda hope he convinces himself the reason he can't get any fights is that everybody is afraid of him and drops the belt. I'd be disappointed for sure, because for all of his irritating as **** antics the man is fun to watch and a fight with Usyk is one of my dream fights right now. But at least this way Usyk would have a chance at becoming a two time undisputed champion, the other guys would have their chance to fight for a belt and become a part of boxing history, and most of all the fans would have a chance at getting a champion that consistently focuses on boxing and doesn't jerk them around with phony retirement talks and announcements and call outs that amount to nothing. On a final note, I've seen the aging out theory being thrown out a lot, and if that's true... it's gonna backfire on him, and badly. Usyk is a finely tuned athlete, so it could be awhile before that happens and even when it does, I don't think it'll be an over night thing. Fury on the other hand has abused his body in various ways over the years, so his degradation will probably happen before Usyk's and get worse quicker. I mean yeah, he already defies expectations by moving the way he does at his size and body type and continuing to do so despite the previous abuse, but even then the human body can only take so much before it starts to betray you. When he finally starts to go over that hill, his size won't be enough to protect his 0.
Lol, even you can’t put a moronic spin on this now. And the other Furyette cult members are nowhere to be seen, particularly those who keep parroting about how inactive Usyk is D Never in the history of boxing 1) was there such an overhyped fighter with such a weak resume 2) who then still managed to destroy his fame due to his idiocy and cowardice Fury will no doubt go down in boxing history - just not for the reasons his remaining handful of vassals wanted him to, lol.
The good thing is we going to find out soon. Let's just hope at least that fight happen. As otherwise this whole generation of HW would be an absolutely waste.
It won’t work though. Usyk aha always been the consummate professional, following a strict diet and lifestyle. Even though Fury is younger, he is only one and a half years younger and he abused his body in every way possible. He spent much of his adult life by binge eating and drinking, he has been regularly snorting gak, he ballooned up to 400 lbs in his late twenties and still carries around about 30-40 lbs of excess fat on him. His decline was already apparent in each of his fights after Wilder 2. His speed and stamina is deteriorating noticeably so if he wants to age Usyk, it will backfire badly.
The guy you quote is actually right. Fury attributes for example has regressed long time, because of his lifestyle, but Fury changed his style and doesn't need them to be as sharp as Usyk for example. Fury can just rely(if he is allowed) to hold, lean on, and use his sheer size. Throwing few punches goes to clinches and repeat. Usyk on the other hand, needs HIGH pace, which is related to very high stamina, which is one of the first thing to go with the age, then we have speed, reflexes, his movement, etc. All are related and he is already on decline. And i said it since he move to HW. Don't forget Usyk had around 350 amateur fights. Loma which is similar in terms of style, not exact, but similar is already a lot worst version of himself, and Loma is a year younger than Usyk. The only reason Undisputed hasn't happen yet, is Fury is clearly waiting Usyk to either age and or get beaten by someone else. And then he would claim he would have beaten him with ease.
I think the highlighted bit is key here. Fury won’t be able to lean on something that’s not there. Usyk is a better mover than anyone Fury has ever faced before. With athletes like Usyk, decline doesn’t happen overnight. There’s no logical reason for Usyk to not be able to outmove Fury even two years from now. With hoping for Usyk to age and slow down so he can lean on him Fury is waiting for something that won’t happen anytime soon, imo. As corrupt as they are, even the WBC will strip Fury sooner than any such decline of Usyk that Fury could capitalise on happens.
The WBC haven't ordered a mandatory, therefore Fury can't be stripped as he hasn't refused one. They'd be in court if they did that.
Decline happen overnight when you are at advance age. When you are in 33-35, it's also happen but a lot slowly, and you can barely see it. After that it can happen overnight. Klitschko for example for me was in his last prime against Wach. He looked great physically there. Speed was great, his footwork was great, stamina was superb. He was at the end of 36 there. Obviously he lost his trainer, but he start going down from there. While he KO Pulev in 2015, his jab was literally gone, and his right hand was nowhere to be found. Shadow of himself against Jennings. And have in mind that Klitschko could just rest on his opponent, like Fury does, but still that doesn't help him. He just just a lot of speed, stamina and footwork. Usyk is going to be the same, and it's going to hit him worst, as he ain't a natural HW, and he switched to HW very late in his career + Usyk doesn't clinch and heavily rely on his movement and reflexes. I'm following Usyk career from his amateur days, and i have said it long time ago that he is past his best. It's not a stretch to say that Usyk wasn't also as sharp in the second fight against AJ, as he was in the first. The best option for Usyk was to face Fury at April. Fury and his team are clearly trying to age Usyk out. And i said it again Fury may decide to jump on, if Usyk looks his age against Dubous.
And officially Fury is pulling out of the December fight, and now wants to postpone the whole Saudi plans for January, which is pathetic: This content is protected Just wait now they will try to spin it, and now blame the Saudi.
That tweet sounds like the Saudis are creating the delay. I've always been skeptical that the Saudi thing would happen. Too good to be true. Everyone needs to get something on the calendar now, because even if it does happen in January they'll have time to recover.
No they are not, as both AJ and Wilder have said they are almost done with the deal. I'm amaze that there is still people that believe anything that comes from Fury or Warren mouth. Simon Jordan was first with the news, and he said that the Saudi plans staying the same, aka to host AJ - WIlder. They are about to fight in a MMA/Hybrid b.c. match, and Fury was never in a million year going to fight in September and then in December. This content is protected This content is protected WBC should be canceled. That belt means next to zero now. If they allow such s**** to happen, and they obviously help this to happen, as they refused to mandate a mandatory for Fury, everyone needs to just ignores them as Sanctioned Body. This is beyond garbage, and it's absolutely ruining the sport of Boxing. If Fury wants to have exhibition fights, as such fights are exactly that, great, drop the belt and go do your garbage stuffs. And WBC are so s*** and corrupt and will allow this s****.
@lordlosh I don't trust anyone in this situation: Not the Saudis nor anything that the Fury, Wilder or Joshua camps say. I don't even think the Saudis necessarily are acting dishonestly here, just that the whole thing may not be realistic. Informally announcing this card in the spring for a December date was a red flag for me right out of the gate. Way too long a timeframe. I have nothing positive to say about Fury at this point. The WBC are coddling him with these antics, and it won't surprise anyone if he takes a carnival fight just because he can. They need to fast-track a mandatory and move toward stripping him, but they won't. That's why I argued with you about Usyk. He should not keep tilting at windmills. The undisputed fight probably is dead, so why bother with an undeserving and very poorly paid mandatory fight. If Fury doesn't fight, then either Usyk or Joshua should fight Wilder and the other has to do the best he can. (I know you disagree, but imo there's a big dropoff in marketability after the top four HWs.)
Usyk just needs to take a fight. Everyone is going mad about Fury (with some merit) but it's longer since Usyk turned out. It will be a year, soon, since he did any boxing and nothing in the pipeline. That is not healthy for him or the division.