Tyson Fury would knock Wilder out he must be licking chops

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  1. Maggo

    Maggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    EXACTLY :good:deal
     
  2. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly - I REALLY hope he does. However in all my 30+ years of watching boxing I never seen anyone look so sloppy beat a champion of such longstanding as Wlad. When I watch both fighters I honestly see 2 totally different classes of fighter. Wlad is technically leagues ahead of Furry. Just even a look at their respective physiques whilst on its own that isn't telling everything you can see who takes their craft and physical conditioning more serious. Look at Furrys love handles...he isn't looking like a dedicated athlete. His own words also say as much - doesn't really care for titles, longevity, honour or any of that stuff...only money. When the Haye fight fell through again he was understandably pi$$ed off..but his dedication to the sport was manifest in his short retiring and getting obese. This is not a total believer in himself or someone that is determined and dedicated. He's a part timer who knows nothing else so had no choice to come back out of his short lived retirement.
     
  3. lepinthehood

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    Corrie sanders was the same. Now I'm not putting him in that league, because Sanders was a real dangerous quick puncher, who never took the sport seriously, fury tales it a lot more seriously than sanders. But if you look at furys strengths , he has a wide range of punches, he can move, he throws more punches than wlad, more stamina and can fight in the inside. These are weaknesses of Wlads, his stamina when pushed, no one has pushed him in years, when he does want a rest he can't lay and tire fury because he is putting himself in harms way. Also fury moves a lot better than pulev, pulev was asking too get punched all night doing what he did. Fury will bide his time...
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    how can you say this with the line of guys Fury has fought? Wlad would have crushed his opposition. Fury's resume is very mediocre where Wlad has like 18 title defenses and has fought every style in those fights. Wlad is simply more battle tested and it isn't even close. Not one fighter that has beat Wlad has done it "on the inside" that isn't how you beat either Klitschko you have to be willing to go right at them and take some bombs in return. Nobody "got inside" or fought on the inside to beat them because it doesn't work everyone that tried got swatted away and beaten to a pulp.

    You need a Chin and power to beat Wlad. Fury has NEITHER. The only reason you can say Fury has stamina is because he throws weak arm punches he hasn't been pushed at a pace that Wlad has shown he can handle. Chisora, Cunningham and Hammer are absolute **** opponents. You can't conclude one damn thing from Fury's wins over them.

    I will admit if Fury had savage power or an Iron Chin he would certainly be a threat to Wlad but he doesn't. He is a big oaf that has won his fights for the lone reason he is bigger than his opponents. Wlad is close to the same size as Fury. The only reason Fury beat Cunningham was because of his size and his repeated fouling.
     
  5. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As I said I do hope Fury surprises me and wins but all I see beforehand is a short fight and Wlad hand raised before the end of round 5. Probably a highlight reel KO to boot! We'll see......
     
  6. Maggo

    Maggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can you say Fury thrown more then Wlad?

    Fury never faced an A-Level fighter with reach and punch, he ducked them all away. Wlad, Pulev, TT, Price and Ustinov..

    Ist no Problem to Punch much against Small B/C Level figters like Hammer, Chisora and Cunningham

    Sorry.. you will see that he will not throw that many punches against Wlad.. if he will appear in the ring on boxnight!
     
  7. Staminakills

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    first glancing shot wilder lands fury will out for hours ala pac
     
  8. lepinthehood

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    You keep saying you need a chin and power. When many of wladmirs last few opponents have had a chin and power, some having huge power and some having iron chins.

    You don't need either. You need to box to orders, you need to rough him up, you don't need to be a junping in head first like an Olympic diver either. Like povetkin and jennings were doing.

    Fury has shown good movement and a good jab lately. He's not going to try and kill wladmir from the get go or he will be decapitated. He will be on the backfoot for the first few rounds boxing cautiously and maybe losing a few. Wladmir will be on the front foot trying to corner him, jab, clinch. Push off etc etc. fury will catch him with a few jabs and rights when wlad tries this. Like tony Thompson did, tony was a 40yr old man and a tank half empty when wlad fought him, he also has slow feet. Fury won't be getting hit cleanly until wlad really needs to put the pressure on. Clinches won't work, fury is the stronger bigger man. Functional strength, not just a dead weight like maruisz wach. Wlad is going to gas, fury will be landing crisp shots not trying to survive like most of klitchkos opponents.
    I don't even see fury knocking wlad out I see him decisioning him. But that always depends on whether the klitchko judges can go score a fight correctly. Fury may get robbed.
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

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    You aren't going to outbox Wlad. If Fury tries to "box off the back foot" he will lose 120-108.

    You say Wlad will gas but Fury hasn't fought near the competition Wlad has and isn't as battle tested. We haven't even seen Fury go at a pace like Wlad has either so the 'gassing' part is as ridiculous as everything else you have posted.

    The dumbest thing Fury can do is try and win by Decision and when has Wlad ever been in a close controversial decision? :huh He has lost maybe 10 rounds the last 10 years so your comment on judging is ridiculous. It is like you don't even watch boxing :lol::lol::rofl:rofl
     
  10. lepinthehood

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    Jennings wasn't seen more than cannon fodder for klitchko and still took rounds of him. Jennings doesn't hit as hard, doesn't have the same strength as fury and actually hasn't learn to use his reach very well.
    Fury may get a few knockdowns aswell. Let's see. I just hope fury doesn't get robbed in germany
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

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    Jennings won 2 or 3 rounds at most. Most Boxing media had it lopsided in favor of Wlad. Harlod Lederman who hates Wlad gave Jennings 2 rounds. I would argue Jennings hits as hard or harder than Fury who is absolutely feather fisted for his size.

    When has Wlad ever needed a 'robbery' in Germany? :lol::rofl:patsch

    Please give me examples when Wlad has won by 'robbery' on the scorecards not just in Germany but anywhere for that matter?
     
  12. lepinthehood

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    He will need one when they fight lad.

    I think fury is going to win a decision. Whether the German and Ukranian judges have enough ***** to give it to fury will be a different matter.

    Everyone knows Germany is the boxing robbery capital of the world.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Yes in the 1990's this was true. The UK and Texas have surpassed them and it isn't even close. If you look at Wlad's fights in Germany the referees have been 100% neutral from countries all over the world. :rofl
     
  14. lepinthehood

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    Yeh like letting wlad spends 15minutes laying on top his opponent each fight. Haha. Very neutral. Rofl
    The ref doesn't need to be a German or Ukranian but he may aswell be with the amount k2 are paying him. Haha
     
  15. Caper

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    Tyson vs Wilder is still a toss up in my opinion what happened this weekend changes absolutely nothing. Against Stiverne Wilder showed he can put on a focused and poised performance meaning that he's the type to fall into playing up to the level of competition….he obviously thought Molina was a sitting duck for his home crowd and quickly learned Molina'a KO ratio had some legitimacy to it. That being said Fury isn't the biggest puncher though he's slightly more refined when compared to Wilder. Like I said the fight is still 50/50. Folks talk about Wilders chin however Fury's hasn't looked like iron either, the way he went down from that cunnigham shot like he was Ernie Shavers was concerning to say the least.