Tyson Fury

Everybody knows Fury's resume is pathetic for over 8 years of being the lineal champion. Next.

 

He also signed to fight Haye. Haye pulled out twice with injury.
He offered to fight AJ twice before Dubious KO'd AJ. AJ and Hearn declined twice.

If those fights had happened he would have faced Wlad, Wilder x3, Usyk x2, Haye x2, AJ x2.

Is that a bad line-up? Who is left from that era that was actually a top fighter?

Povetkin is the only one, who he never crossed paths with and who he would have fought if Povetkin had been given the eliminator against Whyte the first time. Though Povetkin was shot by then. He fought Whyte instead.

So it's a bit more complicated than 'he ducked all dem great fighters'. People act like there was some endless line-up of top fighters Fury wouldn't face, but they can't really list them.

In fact AJ is the only genuine one available that is missing and AJ didn't want the fight before Dubious, who he thought he'd beat then try to be 'A-side' against Fury in the negotiations.

 

Buddied up to Parker to avoid that one blatantly, Pulev, Ruiz, Ortiz, Miller, Dubois now, Hrgo, Hunter, Takam, Joyce - Really any top guy or contender outside of Wilder and Whyte?

 

Don't ever speak my boyfriends name ever again in a derogatory fashion.

Sure lets try and make out that Usyk's best win was over a nobody. overrated. Let's pretend that Wilder didn't beat a very fundementally sound and ducked Ortiz.

Imagine trying to minimize and not give Fury credit. It's just like when he whooped Wlad. Dominated him. Nobody gave him the credit he deserved. They mocked his body. They mocked him. They took him as a fool and a joke but Fury is not that he's a born and bred fighting man and it took an equally incredible fighter in Usyk to topple him.

If you can't look at the division for the last 10 years and see that Fury & Usyk beat all of these men rather easily or whilst in their sleep then you're blind. Levels ahead.

Say what you want about Wilder but ultimatly people remember and care about entertaimenet, that's what it's about and how money is made and the Fury Wilder fights take the biscuit. AJ Wilder would have been MASSIVE. So would have Fury AJ at one point before he got chinned over three times in a row.

Fury getting up in round 12 against Wilder is a historic Top 5 boxing moment, easily. iconic and nobody can take that away from him.

 

Fury's only real talent has always been at ducking any live body. He will retire never having faced anyone good anywhere near their prime.

 

Is this a hot take thread? Nice. I have a few controversial topics that have never, ever been discussed before, either.

Ken Norton...he won that third fight, didn't he?

Sugar Ray Robinson....the pound for pound GOAT?

Lennox Lewis TKO 6

Sam Langford had a lot of knockouts!

Oh, and watch out for a young heavy named Mike Tyson. I think he's going places!

 

After Joshua had just gone 12 rounds with Usyk yeah Fury offered Joshua a fight in 8 weeks the problem was Fury kept rescheduling the date so Joshua had less time to prepare.

And funnily enough when Joshua called out Fury on his bluff and accepted the ridiculous deadline terms that Fury keep applying. Fury backed out no surprise as he never had any real intention of fighting him.

 

It's weak
What's worse is his last win was a split decision with Ngannou.
And before that a win against Chisora.
He looked good in February 2020 against Wilder and that is about it. There are a lot of contradictory feelings in this forum about Fury largely coming from Usyk's biggest fans. The know Fury claim to being a solid champion was very weak but since Usyk got him in the ring and outpointed him in 2 fights (and frankly, Fury was competitive and made the fights fairly close) we have to pretend Fury was actually solid.
No one will ever convince me beating a man who barely beat Ngannou in his last fight is epic historical win or anything close.
Fury went downhill after the 2nd Wilder fight and he wasn't exactly invincible before it, eg. WALLIN.

 

Fury is a very good boxer but he barely tested himself against the field. Even at his peak. He literally didn't fight anyone. I love his fights with Wilder but an entertaining trilogy does not equate to a top ranking historically or even necessarily within the era.

 

"Takam, Ruiz, Miller"

Desperate.

 

Chisora is arguably Vitali's best win, if not his 2nd, and Kevin Johnson is in Vitali's top 10 wins. Yet Vitali was top 2 over the Klitschko era and most rate him very highly.

Fury has a stronger resume than Vitali, fought more quality and was a higher risk/lower reward fighter for a significant part of his career.

 

Vitali's resume is shyte, so saying Fury has a better one is not saying much. Btw. Vitali's best wins are Sanders and Peter.

 

On the flipside, Fury declined to fight AJ in 2018 and 2019. But both men signed to fight in 2021. Too bad Wilder won the arbitration. Fury can fight AJ now, but is too scared after being retired by the gap tooth middleweight.

 

The thing I will never understand about Fury was his reluctance to fight David Price when both were undefeated prospects. For sure he or someone around him had to have known about Price’s Glass Jaw? Trainers and managers etc know if their fighter has a Glass Jaw or not and there’s no way that didn’t leak out of Price’s camp at some point. It would have been an easy fight for Fury but we never got it.