Tyson Fury

Sure, if your reading comprehension is lacking.

 

That's right up there with the "Wlad avoided Chisora" B.S. that floating around a few years back.

 

I agree about his poor resume, he didn’t fight all comers, it could be easily argued that he avoided numerous fighters. He was caught using performance enhancing drugs and got away with it, barely gets a mention anymore.
The odd thing about Fury is that although his resume is pretty weak, I can’t think of a fighter who has better managed their career and made the absolute maximum from the minimum risk and effort to a certain extent, and he still manages to stay relevant. I’m not taking anything away from his talent or his achievements but he has sold himself and built up every fight to get the absolute maximum out of it, he deserves credit for that at least, but also everything he’s ever accomplished in the sport is tarnished by his drug cheating behaviour.
It’s worth noting that he’s fought in an era where fighters manage their careers, they aren’t looking to fight every credible fighter, they’re looking to make the most money possible for taking the least amount of risk.
But for me if I look at his resume and career the only thing I see is drug cheating and questionable results because of that, same for canelo

 

Fury should be fighting Joshua - simple as that.

Unless he's genuinely retired ...

He could also take on Itauma and/or Dubois. It's annoying that if he comes back it'll likely be yet another Usyk fight.

 

What a great thread

 

He beat Wlad in one of the worst heavyweight championship fights ever and never gave Wlad a rematch. The rest of his resume is just meh and that's OK, but when some of his fans call him the greatest HW in history, real fans will start voicing facts about that resume.

 

All true, but that win was and still is significant. Wlad was the first heavyweight since Lewis to be seen as the true champion of the division, and truly ruled over the rest by beating several nr 1 contenders.

Fury´s resume is **** tho, besides that win.

 

the bs you posted can't even spell aging correctly. try harder.

 

only wlad was months short of forty, looked like **** in his last few fights, and fury has zero wins against prime opponents who don't suck.

 

You really going to be a grammar Nazi here? Bro, you start sentences with lower case letters...
And just to be clear, both "aging" and "ageing" are correct spellings of the word. "Aging" is the standard spelling in American English, while "ageing" is more common in British English. I learned British English in school.

Doesn't matter, he was still the heavyweight champ.
You cant write that off as a meaningless win. Nothing wrong with giving context to it when talking about it, and the fact that he was an ageing champion, but he was still the legitimate champ.

And Wlad mopped the floor with Pulev, so I don't get why you are saying that he looked **** in that one.
Actually, looking back on it, he didn´t really loose any rounds at all after the Haye fight, well, until he faced Jennings that is.
Granted, he fought mostly scrubs, but still. Povetkin, Haye, and Pulev were the nr 1 contenders at the time of those fights, and Wlad beat them with ease. (Haye was the WBA champ, but you get what I mean.)

Yea, I am not arguing against that at all.

 

The Wlad win was a good win. The young lion dethroned the old lion. Wlad was at the stage were he was still competitive but less of fighter he than was 5-10 years prior.

 

I don't think Chisora is Vitalis best win. Not even close if honest, as you have to look at where people were in their careers.
I think he has several bigger wins than Chisora and Johnson but you could possibly argue as being in Fury's top 10 wins as well

I think it is quite debatable

Fury's title defences
Wilder (former WBC champ), Whyte, Chisora

Vitalis title defences
Williams, Gomez (former CW champion), Arreola, Johnson, Sosnowski, Briggs (former HW champ), Solis, Adamek (former CW champion), Chisora, Charr, Mahone, Sullivan

Fury beat Wladimir for a world title, Vitali beat Sanders who stopped Wladimir for a world title
Fury beat Wilder who was a big puncher for a world title, Vitali beat Peter and Hide who were both big punchers for world titles

I think it can be quite debatable looking at their title opponents
Fury has 5 world title wins
Vitali has 15 world title wins

Fury top 3 world title opponents i would guess - Wladimir, Wilder, Whyte

Vitali top 3 world title opponents I would guess- Sanders, Hide, Peters,

Throw in that Vitali did beat some other decent opponents when not a world champion like Norris, Bean, Hoffman, Donald and kirk Johnson

I think someone could argue a stronger resume for either depending on how they see it

 

Mate I’m fully aware of the gifts he’s been given and the and the way he manipulated mental health to navigate a tricky drug cheating scenario, I just thought I’d take a break from bashing him, the most overhyped and overrated fighter of this generation at any weight. I actually forgot about the Ngannou fight that was actually pathetic, he definitely lost, it was embarrassing and a gave every brash MMA fan to talk shite about boxing for a bit, thank Fuk for Joshua slamming the door shut on mma fighters thinking they can hang in boxing, that one is probably my favourite knock out in boxing ever because of the significance of it, it certainly put a few loud mouths back in their box