Tyson Furys Career: In Depth Breakdown

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dagnaldinho, Nov 10, 2025.


Rating Furys Resume

  1. A+ - All Time Great Resume

  2. A - Great Resume

  3. B - Average Resume

  4. C - Good but Overated Resume

  5. D - Basic Resume

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just have to point out that Wlad and Holmes are very odd guys to be citing. Wlad split the era with his brother, and Holmes never unified, never fought a #1 contender, and in fact contributed to proliferation by taking the IBF title from the gutter rather than fight Greg Page.

    Yes, they are better than Fury, but they come with their own issues.
     
  2. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, fair point, I worded this badly. What I meant was he didn't definitively lay claim to being the best of his era in the way Wlad could, given he basically beat everyone apart from his brother, who he was never going to fight. Yes, Fury beat Wlad, but then he went missing, avoided a Joshua fight (although I think he'd have beaten him), and then got slapped by Usyk after a dire showing against Ngannou. That is not a strong legacy in the pantheons of HW greats.

    Do you think Holmes avoided Page, though? From what I've read, I feel like that was more down to Don King being a parasite than Holmes not wanting the fight, he did originally sign for it. Larry jumped in with a prime Tyson and Shavers, I don't think he avoided Page.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, again, he never unified, never fought a #1 contender. I get the money thing, but there comes a point where you have to step up or else you own the criticism. Right now, Holmes is on a massive high from those nostalgic for his 90s comeback...forgetting that in his time, the fans compared his safety-first matchmaking pretty unfavorably to the Ali era.
     
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  4. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Congrats on making it all the way through my original post, appreciate you reading. If you read throughout the rest of the thread, you would have answers to alot of the points youve raised about the issues youve had with what ive said. For example, ive already stated, i dont hold the Haye bouts falling through on Fury at all because it ws no fault of his own. As for David Price, that was a duck. You say the fight never happened because he lost to Tony the Tiger but thats not true. Price was next in line for the titles, the hype was real, we all wanted it, Fury vacated the belts saying he wanted world honours he was ready, he did infact not go on to fight for World Honours and Pricey went on to fight Sam Sexton for the Vacant belts. Fury lost to Price in the amateurs indeed, he actually dropped Price, in fact i think it was actually Price who forced Fury to turn pro by taking the Olympic spot in 08. Regardless of the amateur bout, Price was on a tear, if Social media was as big as it is now, the hype would have been similar to Itauma the way he was tearing through the domestic scene.

    Fury talked ALOT back then, it was brewing nicely, theres a reason Price was a like a 2/7 Favourite to beat Fury, with everything we had seen from both at that point in their careers, on paper regardless of how their careers have turned out, the majority would have fancied Price to go through him like a knife through butter. Fury straight up said no im good when he was ordered to fight Price.

    Nobody discredits beating Chisora, the mockery of Chisora is the fact hes fought him 3 times for absolutely no reason. No sense in the rematch and certainly no sense in the trilogy when Zhang AJ Hrgovic guys like this were there to negotiate with.

    Kevin Johnson i dont rate as a good win for Fury or Joshua. was just a guy that got a world title shot being American and became a guy who seemed to be able to give people rounds in similar fashion to Wach became after his title shot for more recent fighters.

    Regardless of his age, the politics behind that McDermott loss is disgusting. 20 years old or not McDermott was robbed of what now would have been looked at as a incredible piece of history for himself and his family and who knows, could have propelled him on for bigger paydays. The fact McDermotts dad chinned the referee Terry Oconnor 30 years prior, the sole judge of the fight, who scored it a shocking 8-2 in Furys favour absolutely stinks.

    As much as i appreciate the in depth debate and the points youve raised, it feels like you are implying that ive wrote all this out to simply make Tyson Fury look bad and ive got a distain for him. My opinion on his as a person is irrelevant, as youll see time and time again if you read through the whole thread, ive openly stated just how highly i rate the mans ability, how disappointed i am that hes simply denied us of some great match ups and you can sit there and say well its not on him, what other top fighters should he have fought, mate, theres plenty, do you need 10+ names from his arrival to world level up till 2025? Cause its possible.

    Anthony Joshua
    Alexander Povetkin
    Joseph Parker
    Kubrat Pulev
    Daniel Dubois
    Jarrell Miller
    Martin Bakole
    Andy Ruiz Jr
    Zhilei Zhang
    Joe Joyce
    Filip Hrgovic
    Agit Kabayel
    Frank Sanchez

    Povetkin and Pulev are from his era. No excuses with that when fighters from the next era seemed to be perfectly fine getting in the ring with them and making a match. Damn, even Wilder had a scheduled bout with Povetkin ffs which says alot. Joshua has been more times than i care to mention. As for everyone of them other names. There was a beautiful 12-15 month window from beating Dillian Whyte in April of '22 till roughly July/August 23'. What did he do in that time, what was his decisions.. what match ups did his greatness bless us with after them back to back defences of Wilder & Whyte...

    Chisora Trilogy.
    Francis Ngannou Debut.

    Joe Joyce was peaked and ready, a massive fight at that time. Just beat up Joseph Parker. The granite chinned Zombie. Was very much open to fighting Tyson. Why not pick Joe Joyce? Before you say he was tied up with Zhang, he wasnt. Zhang whilst we are at it, another guy who didnt have a fight and was fresh off the back of a controversial loss against Hrgovic, without a opponent also. Hrgovic, another guy in search of a opponent at this time. Daniel Dubois fresh off his Trevor Bryan win. Needed a fight. Finally, the guy he called out after losing to Usyk, AJ, step up December ill fight you, Yeah no problem Tyson fk it, lets go, oh.. erm.. no you have till sunday night to accept or ITS NOT HAPPENING! When your own promoter is beggin you stop with the deadline this can get done its close and you still go ahead and cancel it because he didnt sign a contract over a weekend. Thats the most Tyson Fury Career summarizing move. Talk about the fights we all want to see, tease us, tell us how easy it will be but have absolutely no intention of ever taking it.

    When somebody loses a fight, it doesnt automatically mean Tyson Fury doesnt have to fight them. Thats been the point of reason for many supporters throughout his career. Fight AJ, AJ loses, ohh AJ is no good Fury dont need to fight him he just lost to Ruiz. Guess what happens when you go around fighting solid enough guys of all different styles, you tend to come unstuck at some point. The minute someone seemed to get a loss that seemed to be a genuine challenge for Fury at some point its always as if right thats it, thats a win for Fury without ever actually getting it in the ring.

    As ive pointed out before, credit for the Klitschko win regardless of the asterisks around it. Credit for the Wilder win for the unknowns about Wilders level regardless of what hes turned out to be, but there was more than enough men begging to get a hold of Wilders scalp long before Fury got the lucky golden ticket. Credit for taking the Whyte fight, on paper its a solid win and its alot of respect for actually giving Whyte his deserved shot, but the risk in Furys mind was so low, hes sparred 1000s of rounds with Whyte over the past decade prior, he knew he would work him like a punch bag, literally his words, the perfect style for someone like Fury to look a million dollars. Despite being el iron boarded by Povetkin not long before, its still a very credible win.

    It sounds to me like you are more than happy with his list of opponents he provided you over his 40 fight career and you are more than entitled to appreciate it. For me, its not all time great status. Ill never understand those that say it is. To many good names left on the table replaced with fights we just didnt need to see from British Level all the way through to World.
     
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  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I think his personality cuts both ways - it probably gets him overrated at least as much as underrated.

    The ducking accusation is, ironically, inconsistent with Fury.
    Fighting Wlad at all was brave, not finding the balls to rematch was a cowardly duck.
    Fighting Wilder, a rightly suspected fraud (to those paying attention, at least) but with known huge power, certainly isn't cowardly, but ducking AJ who was clearly several levels above Wilder with also huge power looks like a cowardly duck.
    Fighting Usyk is mixed - he's not a huge puncher, but Fury was always likely to lose... There's credit in not swerving it.

    As usual, especially with Fury, it's complicated.
     
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  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    In all honesty, no, it's not...

    It's entirely normal that guys get overrated whilst unbeaten, even when they're lucky to still have that 0.

    It's also entirely normal that the hype deflated after his first loss and more reality came into the equation and the analysis became more realistic - you only have to look at contemporaries in the division at the same time to see this trend.
     
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  7. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Every top heavyweight bar Ali has missed numerous contemporaries more accomplished than Page.

    Lewis missed Bowe, Moorer, Witherspoon, Ibeabuchi, Sanders, Byrd, and many others. Unification didn't prevent him from missing lots and lots of good opponents
     
  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good to Great resume. He ruined Wilder. Beat Wlad. Has some good 2nd tier wins in Wallin and Chisora and Shwarz and Pianeta and Whyte, etc. And went tooth and nail with Usyk twice. Those were very close fights, both of them.

    If Usyk is an ATG for beating Fury twice at HW then Fury must be great as well. Its not complicated.
     
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  9. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Povetkin, Kabayel, Zhang, Parker, Hrgovic, Dubois, Joyce among others he should have faced
     
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  10. piprules

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    Fury is a fake and a drug cheat. He doesn’t sit quietly in the shadows waiting to strike, he sits quietly and waits out his drug bans all the while trying to get sympathy for alleged mental health issues but really are just drug bans.
     
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  11. dilbert113

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    Tyson Fury. . . all he ever did was talk trash and pull out of fight, after fight, after fight. He pulled out of one fight after the freaking weigh-in. He set a terrible example for other boxers, and now it is perfectly normal for a HW to set up a big match, against a tough opponent, people buy airline tickets, make hotel reservation, and then, at the very last minute, the fighter says, Nah, I"m not doing this. See, e.g. Duboi's shameful pull-out of his fight with Parker. Fighter after fighter does this, in fact, Hughie Fury pulled out of so many fights that he pulled out of his own boxing career!
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You didn't read deeply enough what is being discussed. Holmes NEVER defended against a #1, NEVER unified, and contributed to title proliferation by accepting the IBF belt, giving them instant credibility.

    A terrible, terrible legacy, and people at the time knew it.
     
  13. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Great post. Pretty much sums things up. Test of time will rationize things on Fury based on reality. Regardless of his best wins
    .. they are too few and far between. Buster Douglas on his best night is a HTH handful for anyone too ... but not in all time great conversations.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Average don't cut it anymore. Average house? A shack. Average car? Galoppy. Average woman? Swamp donkey. Average job? Lazy bum. LOL
     
  15. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like most words it has a meaning. But people often misuse it - like it has been misused here - without knowing what the meaning is.