Tyson Furys first 5 comeback fights/Wilders first 5 title defences

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, they don't. Wilder is the WBC heavyweight champion. When Tyson Fury's fights are billed by ESPN as WORLD TITLE FIGHTS, 90 percent of the boxing world cringes, since Fury has never won a sanctioned World Title fight where he passed a drug test.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see your point.

    It's not quite as funny as getting dropped four times and quitting against one of your "bums" ... Joshua still wins in that regard. (LOL)

    But it's still funny.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't care what Fury won,he made Wilder look like a fool by taking a fight because he thought Fury was to out of shape to win. lol

    And this is what eventually happens to all cherry pickers,except Fury was one hard cherry to pick.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Fury didn't win, so I don't know what your point is.
     
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  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Being presented with the choice of Ortiz II and Wallin is like getting to choose between cancer and the black plague.
     
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  6. Rusty100

    Rusty100 New Member Full Member

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    Mate you’ve been mugged off again here bigtime
     
  7. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    I dont know whats the worst fight. Fury v Wallin, Wilder v Ortiz 2, or Fury v Wilder 2.

    To put things into perspective. Hunter v Kuzmin. Joshua v Ruiz 2. Parker v Chisora. Miller vs Joyce. Usyk vs Spong. Whyte vs Povetkin.
     
  8. 305th

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    Lucas Browne?
     
  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Most the time the fights you guys criticize end up being the best ones, so that's good ,at least for me since I think its a 12 rounder and cost 5 dollars here.
     
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  10. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yea O.K ..Keep it moving. Nothing you say on here adds up when it comes to Wilder like MOST of his brain dead following. #FACTS
     
  11. Incinerate

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    Discuss what?
     
  12. Incinerate

    Incinerate Active Member Full Member

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    Fury’s come back fights are borderline pathetic. But he’s getting in shape so that’s all I care about.
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It seems now that this thread has left egg on your face. @GALVATRON tried to explain some simple things to you and it fell on deaf ears.


    Now back to this thread with you. Show me where Fury got busted for PEDs for the Wladimir fight. Show me a link or something to confirm

    He had been inactive for years and took a fight similar to Wilders first defence

    I never said that at any point. I compared a like for like with Furys comeback and Wilders first defences like for like

    I know you cant compare them. Fury at a much earlier stage took some bigger tougher fights and fought as an underdog at least once on the way up as well as fighting away and facing the HW champ with far less fights.
    Agree they are not comparable. But I didnt do that

    This is a very weak argument. Now I agree with a fighter taking their time and learning and I think Wilders team have played everything fantastically. He had 30 odd fights and didnt have to take big tests to get to that level and become mandatory. That isnt a slur but it wasnt like he had to go on a run like Whyte to get a title shot. He then didnt go after the main champ and didnt have a string of touh mandatories or unifications. He was able to take his time, but I disagree with you in how you dont think that may have been a very good strategic move and management.
    Take a look at some of the fights and when he had them for example
    Wilders 28th fight was against A Harrison, around 6 months after he lost in a round to Price who was having his 14th fight
    Or Wilders 29th fight was against S Laikhovich who was coming off a loss to Jennings having his 13th fight and before that Helenius having his 16th fight.
    Do you see how these fighters stepped up so much sooner?
    Although the HW titles are in America at the moment, in general the top HW level is the European level, where fighters have to often step up alot sooner rather than have long often safer runs (I say safer in a non critical way as these brave people are risking their health)
     
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You didnt call me out on it. You changed what I wrote, which I called you out for doing
    I didnt use that, I said they were both former CWs and sited their records.
    Im still not sure how you think a title chance suddenly heightens a fighter just like that?
    Do explain. I will let you explain and fall straight into it.


    Galvatron clearly explained some simple things to you and it seemed to completely lose you
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well this post became very accurate in many ways.
    You see @Dubblechin
    @Dubblechin Read what has been written here. Maybe Galvatron has been more aggressive in his approach on this subject than I have been, but surely you can see what he is saying and now how what he has said has panned out.
    He has explained the resume debate to you also.
    Are you @Dubblechin going to want to get owned on this subject anymore?
    Are you going to comeback and
     
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