Tyson Furys resume is better than Anthony Joshuas

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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Both resume are pretty lacking. It is comical arguing who's resume sucks less.
     
  2. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    Fury beat legit reigning champions, dominated them. AJ has never.
     
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  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    So you agree his resume sucks but you are saying it sucks less than Joshua.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Parker, Ruiz and Martin were reigning champions
     
  5. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    bahahaha!
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    ?
    You ok?
     
  7. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! :risas3::risas3:
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    In the time from winning their first world title
    Fury November 2015 and Joshua April 2016

    Fury is 5-1-1 in world title fights
    Joshua 9-0-4 in world title fights

    Unifications
    Fury 0-0-1
    Joshua 2-0-0

    Reigning champions beaten
    Fury 2
    Joshua 3

    Including winning the title to date -
    I think Fury has had 6 fights against top 10 rated competition in the nearly 9 years (3 against same opponent)
    I think Joshua has had 10 fights against top 10 rated competition in the around 8 and a half years


    That may be incorrect
     
  9. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree
     
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  10. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz was only a champion because he got splatted by AJ in the first place. It doesn't really count.

    I'd also point out that dethroning Wlad and Wilder in their backyards is very different to enjoying home advantage against Parker and Martin. Though I do give AJ credit for beating Parker.
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have often wondered how RING go about their rankings. How far do they look back? Do they weight your last fight higher than your 10th last? etc etc.

    Not sure if they even have a stated criteria? Will take a look.

    I suspect it amounts to a group of RING staff sitting down together and voting. There's no magic formula. BoxRec have proved that over and over again.
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why would it not count?
    You can't change things to suit

    Completely agree but in this overall debate do feel defending titles is also a factor but don't disagree with what you have written there
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think a bit of it could be down to popularity and who someone likes most but don't know myself
    I did a thread recently asking people their criteria for ratings and nobody would commit to answering when questioned
    Answered alot
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What? To altering my posts and replying to altered posts?
    Why would you feel Ruiz was a paper champion for dethroning a unified defending champion?
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As there is no universally accepted method, everyone seems to apply their own interpretation.

    Sports without goal posts or nets, like diving, gymnastics and boxing rely on human opinions for scoring and ratings and it sets them apart from the likes of football and basketball.