Tyson Furys resume is better than Anthony Joshuas

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Edit to below

    In the time from winning their first world title
    Fury November 2015 and Joshua April 2016

    Fury is 5-1-1 in world title fights
    Joshua 9-0-4 in world title fights

    Unification wins
    Fury 0-0-1
    Joshua 2-0-0

    Reigning champions beaten
    Fury 2
    Joshua 3

    Successful title defences
    Fury 3
    Joshua 7

    Including winning the title to date -
    I think Fury has had 6 fights against top 10 rated competition in the nearly 9 years (3 against same opponent)
    I think Joshua has had 10 fights against top 10 rated competition in the around 8 and a half years


    That may be incorrect
     
  2. Kiwi Casual

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    Because it's avenging a loss, not defeating a reigning champion. Technically they're still 1-1 with Ruiz holding the better win.
     
  3. naranja

    naranja New Member Full Member

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    Yeah but Charles Martin
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Ruiz beat Joshua he became a world champion - IBF, WBA, WBO
    When he defended against Joshua he was a defending champion
    That is a fact
    Yes they are still 1-1. No disagreement from me.
    Lewis - Rahman are 1-1. Not sure what you are looking for?
    Or Lewis - McCall
    I guess so with one being inside the distance and the other being on points
    I guess you could say similar with Lewis and McCall again, so I'm not sure again what you are looking for
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    ?
    What about him?
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's a weak argument and you know it. Having an immediate rematch isn't really defeating a reigning champion.
     
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  7. like a boss

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    Having beaten nobody, Martin somehow found himself in a bout for a vacant title. One of the worst heavyweight champions in memory and whoever got to him first was going to take that title.

    You asked.
     
  8. naranja

    naranja New Member Full Member

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    And he didn't beat Glaskov for the belt, Glaskov fell over and hurt his knee.
     
  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It resulted from Martin standing on his foot.
     
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  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some of these fans are loyal like dogs. They come barking at the mere mention of their favorite fighter. There's no rhyme or reason to what they say, merely posts showing their distress at what they see as an attack.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just to clarify with yourself and the people who liked your post

    Are you saying Ruiz wasn't a defending champion when he defended the WBA, IBF and WBO HW titles against Joshua?
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many fighters have had world title opportunities when not having done as much as some other fighters to get them

    Although by injury, Martin entered a vacant world title fight and won

    I'm not trying to make anything out to be more than it is but Martin is arguably Ortizs best win and there is a thread circulating at the moment where some people are picking Ortiz to have beaten Joshua had they ever fought
    Go figure
     
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  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Active Member Full Member

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    So Ali didn't beat the champion when he defeated Spinks?
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He did but the win isn't a good one Leon spinks was a subpar fighter and was only the champ for beating Ali.... It's just not a good look and Ali was shot too
     
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