Tyson Furys resume is better than Anthony Joshuas

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  1. miniq

    miniq RETIRED Full Member

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    The denial and cope from AJ fans is off the charts
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's debatable

    That's why some people go one way and some the other

    From first winning their first world title fight around near times of 8 1/2 and 9 years respectively
    One has only had 3 successful title defences but has the greater win and on the road
    The other has had 7 successful title defences

    One is 5-1-1 in world title fights
    Other is 9-4 in world title fights

    One has not won any unification fights
    Other has won 2 unification fights

    There are various other aspects but that is why it is debatable
     
  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once you conveniently remove the names and records, anything can become debatable.

    Include the names Ruiz and Dubois and what happened in those two fights and there is no debate.
     
  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yet I'd still pick Kingpin to beat Charles Martin. There's the bar, the floor, the basement and somewhere below there Charles Martin.
    Again, you're using a comparison while deliberately ignoring context.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Copy. I don't agree and don't think many would, but I could be wrong and respect your opinion.
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What on earth are you going on about?

    I have included them. See my previous posts?
    Of course they are included
    As said they were bad losses but one has faced more top 10 opposition than the other so is more likely to suffer more losses
    It is also having the names over a period of around 8 1/2 to 9 years
    One has only faced around 4 different top 10 rated opponents in that time span and lost to one of them
    The other has faced around 9 and lost more fights including to a fighter not rated in the top 10 but on a busier schedule

    Swings and roundabouts

    Interesting though that you write all of this and yet Fury is once again talking about wanting to face Joshua
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What context did I ignore?
    Yes I used a comparison. Not sure what the issue with that was?
    Tell me exactly what was wrong with what I wrote?
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    28 pages of crap Fury is a superior boxer to aj and legacy wise his wins over Wilder trump anything aj has outside of Klitschko or maybe Parker end of story.

    Nobody in the coming years will view joshua vs ancient Povetkin, a rematch with peter griffin, old Pulev, substitute champion Martin, shot Helanius, fringe contender Wallin, nobody Franklin as more significant than Fury coming off the couch, getting in 2 tune ups, and then smashing the reigning WBC champion Deontay Wilder who possessed seemingly historical punching power
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I already have.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Show your previous response. If there is one, I expect It has been addressed and you may have avoided answering
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Definitely people will talk about Fury in the future. He has been great for not only British but world boxing but with what you have written here you are only rating Fury higher for one win, which is the Wladimir victory and Fury decided not to fight for a long time after that fight to allow others to contest against him

    You wrote his wins over Wilder trump anything except maybe the Parker or Wladimir fights, and Fury's biggest win after Wilder 2 is his win over Wladimir.
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad had belts and was 10 years unbeaten when Fury came around. Wlad against aj was 2 years older and inactive they're incomparable
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Absolutely
    It was a good away win

    Fury didn't defend the belts
    As Fury fought Wladimir first and won the belts, what else do you think Joshua was to do if not try and collect the titles if the victor decides not to defend them?
    Do answer that
    It was just under a year and a half later.
    To say Wladimir was inactive is a bit disingenuous as Wladimir was training for the Fury return.
    They were due to rematch but Fury had to postpone so after a period of time a new date for the Fury return was agreed and after that Fury later pulled out
    So Wladimir wasn't exactly inactive
    He had been due to fight at least twice before with Fury
    If they are in your opinion incomparable why would you say so much if the above?
    That's like saying Fury lost to an incomparable version of Usyk as Usyk was older and had only had one fight in over a year and a half

    Of course they will be compared
     
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  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This
    And I place the 3 wins over chisora as higher than many of Joshua's bum wins, especially the first 2 as they were Real fights at the time

    Fury certainly hasn't the best resume in history but he is ahead of Joshua. No matter what people think of Wilder he was a belt holder with multiple defences and Fury was the one to dethrone Wlad after a decade of dominance.

    If he somehow beats Usyk then the Aj fanboys will Need care around the clock

    Such an embarrassing, delusional fanbase
     
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  15. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What am I going on about? LOL!

    You have cut and pasted the same raw data here, containing no names and no records, so many times even you must be getting sick of it.