Tyson Furys resume is better than Anthony Joshuas

When the devil is in the detail, it is best avoided.

 

You haven't been able to say what wasn't included
I have openly debated the subject as I have no emotional involvement
It doesn't matter to me either way. I was just previously enjoying the debate
You actively ducked answering questions
That's the difference

Yes I have copied and pasted some comparisons and you are unable to answer
I have had to put things forward several times and you still can't answer sensibly
This is where you seemingly being emotionally invested have tied yourself up

 

That does sound like you ducking the questions

I guess you have made it clear here that you are nervous to answer

 

Read my post before you quote it.

Names and records and how Joshua fared against them. How many times do you need to be told the exact same thing?

How about I offer you a list of wins and losses for various fighters but not include the fighters' names or who they fought and you can choose the best record from them, based purely on the raw numbers? Like to give that a go?

 

If a "better resume" conversation consists of "beat wallin more easily" then both resumes are decidedly horrible.

 

I agree beating a common opponent more easily is hardly anything to get too excited about. Particularly when comparing a puncher's record to a boxer's record. Styles make fights and a puncher is more likely to finish a common opponent than a boxer is. The bigger question is, did they both beat that opponent?

When comparing records, losses are just as significant as wins. Particularly bad losses and Joshua's stoppage losses to Ruiz (humiliating) and Dubois (a schooling from start to finish) are what makes his record inferior to Fury's.

 

All there for you
When you answer the questions that have been long ducked before by you we can then move on and I will happily give you my take on what you ask
The long standing questions below

Bakole lost to Hunter but is now in the top 10 for beating Anderson
Are you thinking Bakole shouldn't be for that impressive win because he lost to Hunter some years ago who hasn't achieved as much as Parker who had beaten Ruiz previously
Really?

Would you not think it impressive if Anderson has an immediate rematch and beat Bakole?

Answer away and then pose your questions

 

Did Fury actually do better against Usyk? I mean, I've been watching boxing for a long time, and I cannot think of too many fights were a man is defenseless and not throwing for 30 seconds all the while getting pummeled around the ring and the fight not being stopped. Now, this site has some historical scholars and I'm sure one of them can mention some fights, but I'm sure they can support my claim that normally that fight would have been stopped. AJ, although hurt at times, was never in that condition.

 

The thread is a comparison between the records of Fury and Joshua. Anderson and Bakole are irrelevant as neither has fought them. Try and post on topic and you might receive a response.

Deflecting from the topic will only alienate you from the discussion but that appears to be your objective anyway.

 

Fair point but the counter argument is Fury also had Usyk in trouble in the middle rounds. Enough trouble that Usyk has openly stated that Fury was the toughest fight of his career.

 

The situation with entering the top 10 is not irrelevant
That is why I gave you a direct example which you have ducked answering again
If I use your logic now then Ruiz and Dubois who Joshua lost to would also be irrelevant as Fury hasn't faced either and then you would only have common opponents to go by, and knowing how you duck questions...

 

Joshua doesn't get a free pass on his shocking losses to Ruiz in particular and Dubois, just because Fury hasn't fought them.

 

Nobody said he did?
You know that but are just trying to duck the questions posed to you
I think this may be the last post with you on this subject as you have clearly become flustered, can't debate any of the points and outrightly duck any questions you are uncomfortable to answer

You take care now

 

I know a white flag when l see one. Cheers. It's been fun.

 

The WBC rank Okolie higher than Joshua.