Tyson Fury's Toughest Fight

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Fury's Toughest Fight

  1. Deontay Wilder III

    28.6%
  2. Otto Wallin

    16.7%
  3. Steve Cunnigham

    13.1%
  4. John McDermott I

    40.5%
  5. Nevan Pajkic

    1.2%
  6. Dereck Chisora I

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    0.0%
  1. Shempz

    Shempz Active Member Full Member

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    The truth.
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Come on, it's not like this is in any way some controversial opinion from some vocal minority. I remember watching the fight and almost everyone being baffled by scumbag referee O'Connor's scorecard, until it came to light that he hated McD because of his dad and was even less impartial as he had always been.
    I don't remember my scorecard from the time, and have no reason to watch and score it again.
    The accepted scorecards are between 98-92 and 96-94 McD, with 5 clear rounds (midrounds 4 to 8) going towards him. Any win for Fury, and certainly O'Connor's ridiculous 98-92 are completely bogus, as the best you can score it in his favor was a draw if you're a fan and give every single closer round to Fury.
    It seems like that's exactly the way you scored it, not giving McD the 2nd, 9th or 10th rounds or scoring any of them even.
    I commented in the RbR which everyone had it either 40-35 or 39-36 after 4 rounds, then Fury started clinching, leaning and roughhousing, costing him a deduction and a lot of warnings.
    By then it was everywhere between 50-43 and 48-45 depending on your preference and/or bias, with me having it the latter (48-45) .
    Then Fury took the "just walk forward and punch the smaller man" approach, which worked and he took the next round. And then we got the 7th, with the KO on the ropes, which of course came with some controversial use of the forearm by Fury to keep Cunningham on the ropes.
    He basically got outboxed until he started to use his size and weight to maul the smaller man down. And that could have resulted in more warnings, more point deductions or even a DQ.
    It was a hard fight for Fury, which it shouldn't be against such a much smaller man.
    Sure. But on average this had been a definite stopworthy cut in the US.
    I respect your opinion, but be fair here... If Wallin would have had that cut against Fury and been up on the scorecards, the fight would have been stopped on that exact same cut. It's just the way boxing works.
    Let's be clear here, I really don't like Fury, due to his history and the way he is put on a pedistal despite all that.
    Like I said, I don't like the man and think he's way overrated.
    By the way, you can't not describe Pajkic as a featherfist as he never stopped anyone even remotely decent in his (short) career, against fighters that got KO1'd by others.
    Turns out Fury is much better as I expected back in the day, and has some Jason Vorhees kinda recovery thing going on, but it's not like he fought other deadly punchers besides Wilder or old Wlad who didn't throw punches at all in that "fight". We still have to see what happens if he fights guys that deliver hard punches regularly and/or in combo's, because he doesn't have much depth in his resume. #1 Old Wlad, #2 and #3 Wilder twice (3 times if we're honest) and #4 (or #5) Chisora...
    What I'm doing is biased, of course.
    But I'm providing some food for thought for a man that tends to be massively overrated (look at the beats everyone in history in their prime threads), while there have been many indicators that he's not an all-style nightmare matchup at all. His opponent selection tells you that, and then he still gets into trouble against often handpicked opposition who would probably be murdered by the other players in the division.
    He's very hot and cold, and style, size and weight play a major role in that, not just his "motivation" in my opinion. That's why I never see him like a longtime ruler, because he isn't someone who can fight off all comers, or even wants to do it. It's telling that he only now has one single titledefence, 6 years after the non-fight in Düsseldorf.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Wonder how many people have actually watched and scored this fight sans commentary?
     
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  4. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toughest fight is vs himself obviously.

    In the squared circle its mcdermott 1 since he lost 6-4 in my book.
    Also Cunningham of course which he says so himself.
    Then yiu also have Wilder 1-3 and the Wallin fight.

    Its true that Fury should have 1 loss and could even have 3 losses on his record which nobody would have objected at that point.

    Overcoming the odds and adversity is his main theme.
     
  5. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I addressed the above, along with the matter of Terry's silly score, in the preface to the scorecard/breakdown I posted.

    As for the rest of your post, you can keep hatin' if you want. I wouldn't really expect anything less from the guy who built up the catalogue of cringe from which I sample here;
    Hard luck, Robbie. Least you had the sense to not store a bunch of faith in Wilder for the rematches. I'm sure you'll be piling all your hopes on Usyk, though, and that's fine with me. :lol:
     
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  7. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hilarious!