tyson holyfield 1

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  1. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Amen brother. Evander is a good man and a good friend. He just made some poor judgements with women.

    Tyson has been a good guy for the last couple years. Was absolute scum before that.
     
  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hey Im not knocking Holy by any means. Holyfield is a fighter, thats what they all do. I just think some people feel this way about him that he plays the religious card.
    Look noone really said much about Holyfields butting until years and years later, because Tyson took it to the extreme with his fouling. It was only after he did it to Lennox Lewis and put that growth on top of Rahmans head, that people starting calling him out on it and labeling him dirty.
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I totally utterly agree

    funny how Holyfield portrays himself as so religious and purposely butts just about every opponent.

    Karma came around and bit him in the ass (or in the ear) and he ran like a *****. Shame the fight didnt continue, we could have seen a different fight.
    With Tysons bite, i believe it levelled the playing field a bit.
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you're saying Tyson got a taste of his own medicine.
     
  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you must also have wished that Tyson had been bitten by all the opponents he had fouled to "level those playing fields" too, correct?
     
  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I find it funny and unfathomably hypocritical that Tyson fans ***** about ANY fouling any Tyson opponent would pull on him. He had it coming and then some, as he was every bit as dirty or more.

    Not faulting Tyson for fighting dirty any more than I would fault Holyfield for butting him.
     
  7. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then you haven't see Tyson's fight with Berbick...
    4:58 - 5:00
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    ...or Marciano's rematch with Charles.
    3:08 (he had also blatantly butted him in the 3rd or 4th round)
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  8. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  9. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty much the some. Some of Tyson's tactics in the ring are outrageously flagrant; Tyson fans get butthurt he got outmanned and outfought by the better, stronger fighter that night, and was gonna lose again before he played cannibal.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    All true.
    Some of the posts from the pro-Tyson crowd almost parrot word-for-word the hysterical rant of Tyson's "co-manager" John Horne in what must go down as the most embarrassing and classless post-fight interview in boxing history.

    Truth is, it wasn't even the fact of the headbutts that Tyson really bit Holyfield for. He didn't like the butts but it was the realization that Holyfield was just too good for him that made him bite. Tyson even admitted so recently on the Oprah Winfrey show. His ego was crushed by the fact that even in great shape he couldn't seem to deter Holyfield.

    After the first fight Tyson said that they were butting each other and Holyfield won simply because he was a great fighter.
    It was the idiots in his camp who built the butting up as an excuse for losing, so by time the rematch came around Tyson had that **** in his mind. He wasn't really happy at that time and was pressured into all this boxing comeback stuff anyway, so when he realised he could be in for another beating (incl. butting, yes, pro boxing is a rough game) from a SUPERIOR FIGHTER he went crazy, bit his way out of the fight and put responsibility for the incident on Holyfield.

    It's a shame so many of his fans want to believe the biting off of the ear was a reasonable response to Holyfield's butting, which is part and parcel of exactly the rough and tough fighting that Tyson practiced and admired himself in his early days.
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People like to forget Tyson coming clean in recent years about the incident. Tyson being beat at all upsets his fans. Him acknowledging he was an inferior fighter that night on national TV? Denial time.
     
  12. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well if you buy into the Evander was leading with his head argument, where was a Tyson uppercut then to end the fight? If he's leading with his head like Etienne, that's right in the perfect range Tyson wants an opponent to be. Where were those devastating punches? I sure didn't see any. The only effective punches I saw was by the other guy.
     
  13. Kalasinn

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    Then there's the time Tyson butted Pinklon Thomas on the orbital bone & caused a cut.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    True.
    Holyfield wasn't leading with his head, just standing his ground and keeping his chin down.
    He could still be accused of being reckless at times or of "butting", depending on your standards of refereeing, but with the styles match-up it was him or the other guy. It was actually Tyson doing most of the charging in reckless and face-first, and he came off worse.
    Holyfield took him apart with punches VERY effectively, starting from round 2, so it's unlikely that intentional butting was his gameplan.
     
  15. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I saw two intentional butts by Evander in rounds 4 and 5. Both followed very low blows.

    It was a Irishmens fight, a pub brawl. Tyson couldn't take it.