Tyson knocked down Buster Douglas for 13 seconds first, should of he been the winnner

its the refs count not the time keepers

 

That's correct, but if we go on that, which we are to, then the referee should have been banned for life on grounds of Woeful Incompetence!

Come on guys, 12/13 seconds is ridiculous! Tyson SHOULD have been the winner in light of the KD in round 8, & perhaps with a more competent referee i.e. Mills Lane, Richard Steele, Carlos Padilla, etc, I'm pretty sure they would have started the count sooner & Douglas would have been counted out!

Tyson took a severe beating that night & by the 6/7 round, Tyson was DONE! The fact that he scored a KD in the 8th shows what type of fighter he was. Don't dare try tell me Tyson had no chin or heart!

In respect of the debate Tyson, Douglas & Larry Merchant have on it, I have that debate on DVD. You can clearly tell Tyson is anxious for a rematch, ASAP, however, Douglas appears not so keen! James knew his ass would have been handed to him next time around!

 

Douglas was paying attention to the ref and not some invisible stop watch, as he should have been. He could have gotten up earlier if he had needed to.

You should get over this. Douglas was BY FAR the better fighter that night and totally deserved to win that fight. Not the last time Tyson would get his ass kicked by a better man.

 

Douglas ****ed that ***git up , stop whining!

 

The difference between thirteen seconds and ten is negligible, really.

Just because it was three seconds longer than, say, a digital clock doesn't make it a long count.

The sport doesn't use digital clocks in this scenario - even today, let alone in 1990. They use human beings, which means that you have to allow a small margin for human error since human beings are not digital clocks, nor metronomes. It is perfectly reasonable to accept that three seconds fits reasonably within the margin of human error.

The referee's decision is final, and nobody in their right mind supports any serious allegation that Meyran deliberately counted slow.

Ultimately the difference is that Buster knew who and where he was as he tried to get up and beat the count (and officially did). Mike didn't (and officially didn't).

Hence, the right man won.

 

:deal

 

id have to watch it agin but didnt Tyson partly screw himself over by refusing to go to the neutral corner or something like that

 

Dempsey-Tunney all over again.

 

Had Tyson been awarded the KO victory, he would have fought Holyfield next and would have got beaten and lost his titles either way.

 

Buster was all there after being put down.It was a flash knockdown and Douglas was aware of what was going on.

If the reff had been accurate to the second,Douglas would have gotten up before the ten count regardless.

You clearly see Douglas after being knocked down,make a motion with his arm as if to say,"Damn!" i made a mistake.He was pissed that he let that punch connect on him.

Douglas deserves full credit for taking out the at that time invincible iron Mike Tyson.

He beat Tyson up realy.

 

If you actually knew the rules of boxing you'd know a fighter is knocked out once the referee has reached the count of ten, not once he's been on the canvas for 10 seconds.

 

Actually there's good interview with Mills Lane and Ferdi Pacheco where Mills explains the count out rule as simply being the referee's own "10 count" rather than 10 seconds and seems to have no problem with this issue.

 

There are three ways to win; if the opponent is knocked out and unable to get up before the referee counts to ten seconds (a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockout"]

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[/ame], or TKO). If there is no stoppage of the fight before an agreed number of rounds, a winner is determined either by the referee's decision or by judges' scorecards. When d fighter goes down I think the time keeper or someone else start d count,the ref send the other boxer to a neutral corner., and then pick the count from this person, this insures that it will b 10 seconds.

 

It's a ten count the ref starts after he instructs the fighter to a neutral corner, not ten seconds from when the boxer touches the canvas. This has be hashed, rehashed, and then hashed again....

 

errr....the ref picks up the count from the time keeper

so a 10 count should be 10 seconds



should, however, is the key word