Tyson/Lewis?

I think that Lewis was shot and on coke at the time. Lewis didn't look himself in the ring walk.

It is also speculated that he had a nasty STD due to ****ing 100 groupies as training, instead of boxing.

He was not the real Lennox Lewis, but even a shell was enough to beat Tyson that night, as we all saw.

 

He was shot to **** by that time, it would be like some prime beast battering up Lewis now.

 

And no amount of revisionist history will hide the fact that beating that version of Tyson didn't mean ****.

 

I am not crying about anything. I am stating facts. Lewis turned down a 13.5 million dollar guarantee to fight Tyson... and THEN took the step aside cash. Once again.. it was Lewis' fault that he didn't get himself in the mix when he had the chance.

 

Trolling at its finest. LEWIS was a shell of himself that night? Give me a break. That version of Tyson was tired of boxing and simply couldn't do it anymore.

 

Yet so many boxer picked him to beat Lewis.

Tyson may well have been at his best since 1987 for that fight and waited until the older Lewis was clearly on the decline.

Lewis KO 8, still.

 

IRON Mike Tyson fears no man or beast.

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Yup. And people act like it was some big feat to whack around the shell of Iron Mike.

 

Good one.

 

If Holyfield had won that fight, as he should have, it really would have shown just how crappy Valuev is. Nonethless it would still have been a somewhat impressive achievement for Evander, because even though he also looked like ****, he was doing at an age way beyond when he should be getting blasted out like Joe Louis was against Marciano. But ultimately, it's more a comment on just HOW shitty the current HW division is.

It really is a shame those corrupt judges denied him this career capper. He has ZERO shot of beating anyone else of note, even with the division as it is.

 

Tyson was never the same after he got hammered by Buster. Part of what made him a top fighter was his self confidence and his fearless attitude. Holyfield had already crushed him twice too prior to the Lewis fight and he was painfully aware of his own weaknesses.

Looking back at the early Tyson fights, he did look great but at the same time, he was consistently fed past their prime fighters.

 

A lot of people, including probably half of this forum, expected Tyson to knock Lewis out. So, I'd argue it does mean ****. :deal

 

Again you conveniently only look at half the story.

He turned down a 13.5 million dollar guarantee to fight Tyson to take the step aside cash...... AND a guarantee to fight Tyson for MORE than 13.5 million.

Whatever. I've known you long enough on this forum to know that you will never back down on a point no matter what facts are presented to you.

To save us all hours of our lives, have it your way:
Lewis ducked everyone.
Tyson never ducked anyone.
Tyson is God, Lennox in a bum and Tyson beats him everyday and twice on Sundays.
Oh, and Wlad is P4P the bestest-estest fighter ever.


Peace. :hi:

 

Good lord, you took that a bit too far. I never said that Lewis ducked Tyson. I said that he didn't take advantage of the opportunity to fight Tyson when the fight was his. You can't blame Tyson for going after a more lucrative fight in which he won the WBA title.... but Lewis can't complain that he didn't get the fight, and people can't act like Tyson ducked Lewis when Lewis was offered the fight, and 13.5 million and turned it down.

Tyson isn't a God... he was a very good fighter, but was also overrated by many. He always struggled against the best fighters that he faced... and actually lost to them. He always gets a pass for every negative event in his career, because people still want to believe that he was unbeatable, which he clearly wasn't.

Lewis isn't a bum. Lewis had a great career. However, his reign as recognized Champ after he beat Holyfield wasn't very impressive, and he didn't fight any of the top 5 fighters of his era during their primes. Those kind of things are a pretty big deal. It's hard to consider yourself the best of your era, when you didn't even fight, let alone beat any of the top 5 guys in that era when they were still at the top of their game.

In all honesty... I feel that Holyfield was the greatest of that era. He fought ALL of the top 5 fighters in that era. He also fought them ALL multiple times. I can't see Lewis' record being the same if he had fought all of the people that Holyfield did. Even when Holyfield lost his title and was washed up... he was still fighting Lewis' top contenders every time that Lewis would vacate a belt to avoid them. In the end, his record reflects a lot of losses... but when you are ALWAYS fighting the best, and fighting them multiple times, that is likely to happen. His resume is flat out amazing, and the man is STILL trying to fight the best in the world.

This has nothing to do with Wlad.... and I don't even rank Wlad as an ATG right now. There is no point.

 

If those are the bare facts I stand corrected. Lewis should've taken the $13.5m. So why didn't he? The reason should be clear before any discussions about step-aside money. That was still a big purse for Lewis back then.

Lewis' management must have surely thought about this. The question is did they know Tyson-Holyfield would be happening? If they did they must've been looking at Tyson-Lewis for early 97 & only have themselves to blame for missing their chance.