Tyson Luke Fury v Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk

It could be argued that Bellew gave Usyk some problems. Dereck Chisora gave Usyk problems.

Even Anthony Joshua gave him problems.

Not to say Usyk isn't good, but he's not untouchable, he's barely had a test at heavyweight.

 

I like you mate but Joshua was a genuine champion. Yeah he's not at the level of Fury or Usyk, but he's a top fighter.

You seem to rate Joe Joyce so highly whose best win is British level Daniel Dubois and he went life and death with sparring partner Bryant Jennings.

He completely outclassed Bellew. Bellew boxed to Penfold's gameplan which Usyk figured out and stopped him.

Wilder, Wallin and Cunningham also gave Fury problems, more than the guys you mentioned...

 

I think Usyk would win. It will be a low volume high feinting/fencing fight. Usyk has a better chin and is harder to hit. From range I think he will win but the inside fighting is the question mark. Usyk has to prevent Fury from getting inside on him and using that size with clubbing shots inside and just mauling him around. Usyk is a smart guy, I think he comes up with a gameplan and wins.

 

I rate Joshua a non elite decent fighter but certainly will never trouble the best in the division - Joyce is in the same boat with it all to prove but that iron chin may break a few hearts.

Fury took the belts from long reigning Champions in Klitschko and Wilder while Joshua took titles from weak opponents who were gifted vacant titles. Charles Martin, Paint Dry Parker and Andy Ruiz is what he has dethroned. I find it hard to accept someone as a very good World Heavyweight Champion when stopped by Rice Pudding Ruiz Jnr.

Joshau, Joyce, Bakole and Dubois are very good well matched fights for each other - much better than jaded old puddings such as Whyte, Chisora and Pulev types.

Posted before that I would eat Humble Pie if I got it wrong and Joshua defeats any 2-3 of Usyk, Fury, Wilder, Bakole, Dubois and Joyce.

 

No denying his heart mate, same as Wilder. Fury, Wilder and Usyk = warriors. Joshua = quitter.

Lets hope we get it.

 

Probably be a scrappy, ugly, technical affair. Whoever wins I think it will be a split decision type of fight - three 7-5s. Fury has a huge reach advantage which is going to be interesting. But beyond sheer size I have Usyk up on all major aspects. The biggest thing is his hunger too. He really wants this. Whereas I think Fury is being cowed in to this. Probably thought he was getting massive cash to fight a 'big bum dosser' and now that money has been halved and the risk has gone up substantially. He's got one foot out of the door but this is his toughest fight potentially. Can he get himself in to the right mindset?

 

Joshua surely has a good chance of defeating Bakole and Dubois. He could lose, but I would give him a good chance. Bakole got knocked out by Hunter and got a gift decision against Kuzmin. He's quite good, but he is not in the league of Fury, Usyk and Wilder.

 

He has every chance of beating all four but every one would give him a real test with all having a good chance of beating him as well.

Bakole very underrated and nearly stopped Hunter 2-3 times in that fight and his trainer stated he should not have been in the ring that night for unknown reasons to us. Was very impressed with his demolition of Tony Yoka. Big DDD took the Joyce fight too early but ready to go now.

Joshua should be at a stage where he is facing these live tests and his confidence would surge should he win these fights.

Elite fighters such as Fury and Usyk too much for Joshua.

 

Certainly better fights than Molina, Takam, Martin, Breazeale, Pulev, Parker and Povetkin.

 

So a guy who just lost to arguably the best HW right now, and is also a former world champion, has to beat the Dubois's of this world to be appreciated here? No wonder this sub is the worst Boxing one on the net. Shocking behaviour.

 

He did easily outclass Bellew, just like he did with Joshua twice. They still gave him problems.

What about Chisora giving Usyk problems?

Chisora who David Haye easily beat nearly a decade and a half ago.

 

Apart from Old Klit, the CV is full of old men and puddings - exactly why he falls apart in 50/50 fights when his overrated power fails to bail him out.

He should have been developed better in the ring facing a variety of live opponents instead of a huge pile of puddings.

Hard job rebuilding from that meltdown on Saturday.

 

well AJ has not exactly beat anyone recently has he?
he beat 39 age Pulev in 2020
& 290 pound Ruiz in 2019 (who was only rated for AJ get beat by him!

 

Usyk points for me.southpaw superior footwork and athleticism will get it done..hopefully.