Tyson Luke Fury vs. Deontay Leshun Wilder III

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Feb 24, 2020.

Gypsy King or Bronze Bomber?

Poll closed Oct 9, 2021.
  1. Fury on points

    11.9%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    78.0%
  3. Draw

    0.4%
  4. Wilder on points

    0.4%
  5. Wilder by stoppage

    9.3%
  1. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm definitely saying never :lol:
     
  2. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Fury destroys him again.
     
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  3. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    90% of boxers are exactly as you say.
    I'm no big Fury fan, but l find Wilder a very sad case. From wanting a 'body' on his record, his awful resume, to his pathetic excuses after his loss to Fury.
    You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm not sure you've thought it through !
     
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  4. drenlou

    drenlou "Survey Says, 1 More For The Good Guys!" Full Member

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    Whatever floats your boat!
     
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  5. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    I reckon every possible result, round KO, scenario, even a dq has been touted in many topics !
    If Wilder isn't doing it early he will struggle.
    I reckon he has 5 rnds to KO Fury, otherwise he's finished (which, incidentally is how AJ will have to do it to beat Usyk in their rematch)
     
  6. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know. Fury talks too much. Too arrogant. I hadn't liked his attitude towards Klitschko either. He needs a KO loss so that he will understand that he is not invincible. I hope Wilder does it tomorrow.
     
  7. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am picking Fury by decision. The only thing that concerns me is the possible problems that having had Covid could cause. If I don't put emphasis on that I think Fury should stomp a mud hold in Wilder's dumb ass and walk it dry. Wilder is going to "get it right proper."
     
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  8. VOXDEI

    VOXDEI "BRILLIANT AJ" Full Member

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    I say this because there are no tangible reasons to suspect that this fight will go any way other than to Fury, and certain individuals bad reasoning annoys me and makes for terrible analysis.

    Bear with me while I go on a light-hearted rant.

    I'm hearing a lot of this:

    "Fury doesn't look right in X video"
    "Something tells me Wilder's going to land a big shot"
    "I've just got a feeling about this fight"

    WHY?

    The case for Fury:

    Physically Fury is the bigger, younger guy, with faster feet, longer reach and superior gas tank.
    Psychologically Fury must have the advantage having taken Wilder's best shot and gotten up, then followed that up with a demolition in the second fight. Also see Wilder's excuses after the second fight and headphone-adorned press conferences before this fight for an insight into his frame of mind.
    Ability-wise Fury is the far superior boxer and this is perhaps the least controversial statement here.
    Previously Fury won the first two fights (even if Wilder was gifted a draw in the first) which should in itself be strong evidence that he will win the third.

    The case for Wilder:

    Physically Wilder MAY have faster hands, or at least a faster right hand, but this is no different from the first two fights, so shouldn't factor into a discussion over why he should do better here than last time.
    Psychologically Fury MAY be in a rougher place than he was for the first two fights, but there is nothing concrete demonstrating this. This argument largely comes down to how Fury looks and people saying he looks fat/out of shape but I'm highly dubious over whether or not he looks significantly different from the second fight.
    Ability-wise Wilder has the ability to MAYBE land the big right but this threat is no greater and probably less than in the first two fights due at least to his age, and wear and tear from the first fight, but also due to the psychological hurdles presented above.
    Ringside Wilder has 3 US judges I believe (?) and is the hometown fighter, this IS a concrete reason to back Wilder, but he had the same advantage in the last fight so it shouldn't factor heavily into an argument as to why he should do better here than last time.

    People can feel free to add to this, obviously it's extremely brief, but as far as I can see the case for Fury should be every bit as strong and indeed stronger than it was in the first two fights.

    For this reason, those people picking Wilder to win on the back of gut-feeling or suspicion are making a BAD prediction. Even if Wilder was to land a big right, take Fury's head off, and win the fight, which is all wholly possible given Wilder's cannon right hand, it would still be a BAD prediction.

    In the same way me calling zero on the roulette table is a bad prediction whether it comes up or not. I'm either wrong and look like a fool, or I'm right and I'm a lucky fool.

    For this reason, anyone predicting Wilder to win is a chancer and should re-examine the reasons for holding their bad opinion.
     
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  9. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    .....The same could be said of Wilder. You're entitled to an opinion but all boxers talk too much & are arrogant to a large degree.
     
  10. MagicE

    MagicE Active Member Full Member

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    I'm with you ArseBandit, Fury's energy is all wrong and Wilder is more motivated and has more on the line
     
  11. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder is already beaten and he was silent for a long time. He is not the same person as before, he has changed for good, he doesn't talk too much and he learned to behave. Less arrogant. He learned his lesson.

    A good beating makes a spoiled child a better person. Now it's Fury's turn. I hope Wilder makes him a better person tomorrow night.
     
  12. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder's legs are less slim than his chances in this fight unless he gets very lucky and Fury switches off completely. He landed two flush punches in the 12th round of a fight that was Fury's first competitive bout in several years after he had burned off over ten stone. If he couldn't beat that version of Fury, I fail to see how he beats this version.
     
  13. 6.5winmag

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    fury tko 10th Rnd
     
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  14. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury will tire in the second half with all that weight. If Deontay makes it to the second half he can win a decision.

    The rounds before the knockdown in the rematch were close. Wilder was able to land some big right hands. Yes Fury took them, but you can only take so many.

    From the knockdown onwards, Fury was fighting a human punch bag. History doesn't repeat itself and Deontay is unlikely to be off balance in the third fight.

    Fury will come in even heavier. All Wilder has to do is survive, absorb punishment early and then he can get to work in the second half.

    Remember that any close rounds will be scored to Deontay, because that's how judging usually is in the US. We also saw Bayless being extremely biased in the rematch, and this referee will be exactly the same most likely. The crowd will also be pro-Wilder this time.

    That's why I believe Wilder takes a decision. And Deontay made a valid point: If Fury can't KO a malfunctioning human punch bag that was there for the taking, what happens when he has to deal with a functioning warrior for 12 rounds?
     
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  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Because fights aren’t fought on paper and on any given night anything can happen. If this were the mindset, why have fights at all they could all be decided by fans on the front end.
     
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