Tyson Luke Fury vs. Deontay Leshun Wilder III

They're picking Wilder because they are sore about Usyk whooping their boy in his backyard. Fury knows the score: they want him to lose so he'll be a loser like AJ and the rest.

 

If they post evidence of their bets on Wilder before and after the fight then we should at least take their convictions seriously, if not it's just hot air. If you actually believe Wilder has a 50%+ chance of winning it makes no financial sense not to take 3/1 odds on the KO.

 

I’m going with Fury… Wilder is a small minded delusional man who thinks he’s anointed by god or something. His best weapon is his right hand and he is not fundamentally sound and does not have a good boxing IQ.

 

As much as I agree it's not a position that can be supported with evidence, I don't have a problem with people using gut instincts to predict a Wilder win.

Now placing money on Wilder winning is something else entirely - that's more than just a casual prediction on an internet forum, that's throwing your money away on a casual whim.

 

Well, looks like I'm a chancer then.


And this is what I expected, Fury backers and Fury fans to start off by saying it's just a punchers chance, which if Wilder does land a huge right hand and wins will turn in to "a punch from the Gods"... maybe even the old "lucky punch".

Yeah it will probably just be called "lucky" and seen a fluke.


But I like big punchers, always have, they are exciting, and while Wilder is upright and moving is always in with a chance of landing a huge right hand.. he could be losing 11-0 and find it in the 12th and cancel everything.

But I just believe Wilder is going to land a huge right hand

 

Sure, but the question isn't really about WHAT you believe but about WHY and whether it's really justified... And whether it's a funny feeling or a deeply held conviction.

It certainly wouldn't seem like the smart money would be on Wilder for this one, but it's true that anything can happen on the night.

 

Errol Spence said Wilder with Malik has improved as to combos. We'll see.

One thing is certain. Wilder will hit the hardest he can this time. But in my opinion it will be not enough to beat Fury.

 

Well, in the first fight Fury was dropped twice and was a second or two away from defeat in the final round, in fact if the referee stood over Fury and waved it off after 5-6 seconds not many could have complained.

It ended up being a great piece of refereeing but Wilder was very very close to ending the fight.

I have to be fair and add that wasn't really a fit or conditioned Fury but that said this Fury doesn't look fit and conditioned, he is coming heavy... so we will see.


Moving on, The second fight, Fury shocked Wilder, took the play away, battered him and Wilder couldn't cope but Wilder didn't quit, didn't fold, he was willing to go out on his shield..

And most importantly Fury said after the fight to Wilder "you hit me in the second round and I went cuckoo cuckoo"

Now he might have just said that to be generous but I don't believe he would have said it if it wasn't true.


Wilders power is a serious problem for every heavyweight on the planet, he only needs one right hand and I think they would have worked on delivering it.

 

Honestly, I don't see that as a major plus - Wilder was beyond done in there, to be blissfully unaware of or incapable of accepting that is the sign of a moron, even under those conditions.

Fury tends to be generous after fights - he's a bellend in the run-up but friendly to a fault afterwards.

That and he'd have known there was a rematch clause - why not get to mindgames early?

You would certainly hope so, but working on it and actually accomplishing it aren't necessarily the same thing.

Go back to the self-awareness point earlier - is Wilder going to remember newly trained points when under pressure and getting dominated again (which regardless of KO threat, he has for much/most of every round so far, including KD rounds!)... Or is he going to revert to instinct and be the same old Deontay.

I suspect the latter, but I suppose we'll see.

 

Well, I think the fact Wilder didn't quit or stay seated on his stool says he really wanted it and has the bottle and courage to at least try and come through a beating.. compare it to AJ Vs Ruiz.



Yeah, I said it could just be Fury being very generous but I think Wilder probably did land something that made Fury take notice, although I don't remember anything of note.


Oh I agree, Wilder can't just do the same things and expect a different result and just HOPE to land a right hand, I don't think he needs to change dramatically or be somebody completely different, but he has to stop buying those feints, throw right hands whenever possible and punch with Fury and take gambles.

But you're right, easier said than done but we will see.

 

Everyone forgets Wilder looked horrible against Ortiz before he caught him. He looked horrible against Fury for the 1st fight minus the 2 times he caught him and Fury was not running on all cylinders. The second fight Fury annihilated him. What does everyone think that a subpar fighter like Malik Scott is going to do to make him better? Malik has no training experience with any other fighters, and he himself seems to be as delusional as Deontay. The only way Wilder wins is by KO.

 

He's a gullible, brainwashed fool.

 

Wilder does possess a equaliser that if it lands on target has tendency to spoil his opponents day, that sort of punch can never be ignored, past history of course rightly favours Fury.

However this 3rd fight is one that Fury did not want whereas Wilder even went to court to get the bout, whether this will have any impact on the bout and Furys mindset we will have to see.

I think Fury will win, but disregarding Wilders punch power is ignoring a proven game changer.

 

When has fury ever tired?

 

I’ve always said Fury is a bad style match up for Wilder, stand by it. That said there are some folks setting themselves up to look really silly.