Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou & Fabio Wardley vs. David Adeleye RBR.

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  1. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't pay for or watch this farce. Sounds like fury looked like a giant loud mouth turd and stunk up the joint. It's like a scam and I also don't like that they are all selling out. No chance in **** that we see a fury - usyk fight before March next year too.
     
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  2. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk looks like a fish with his eyes .
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Irrespective of the result I think Luke Tyson Fury should be ashamed of himself going life and death and get floored by a MMA fighter. Sorry not good enough. Usyk and AJ will be licking their lips.
     
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  4. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Tyson is a small heavyweight. FRANCIS is a super heavyweight with MMA level strength. Big difference.
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Nah, Francis would be a punching bag for 12 rounds.
     
  6. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Boxing is funny in the way you can spin different narratives for each fighter depending how you want to make it look.

    On one hand you can say fury is undefeated, he didn't train for this fight. You can say he beat the long reigning klitschko came back from nowhere against the biggest punching hw champ and beat him 3 times. Beat another top contender in whyte with ease.

    Or

    Lost to mcdermot, flattened by a cruiserweight before fiddling his way to a win against a klitschko that took the fight lightly and underestimated him. Ducked the rematch and quit the sport to avoid said rematch that he would have likely lost against a motivated klitschko. Came back fought a load of bums. Was dropped in every fight agaisnt the most overated hype job world champion theres possibly every been that had beat absolutely nobody himself..Went life and death with an average fighter in wallin. Beat a dillian whyte that was shot to pieces and had been sparked numerous times. All along ducking all the top guys, AJ, usyk, Joyce, ruiz etc. Took a money fight against an mma guy and looked a mug.
     
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  7. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The world should no longer pay attention to Fury, firstly after his behavior outside the ring especially now after the performance against Ngannou, he should be considered irrelevant in the world of boxing because he does nothing good for the sport...
     
  8. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know what Ngannou gets from here but he may try to get big names only and no lesser contenders, and we'll see if anyone like AJ or Wilder would entertain a fight, they might as well since they are not fighting each other. I'd love to see him vs Makhmudov. Also interesting to see how he enters the official boxing ranking after this performance. He even beat out Loma as the first 0-0-0 rec fighter to get a chance at a champion. I still haven't seen the fight but sounds like they toned him down and he wasn't swinging for the fence, maybe he should've been, especially at the end of the fight.
     
  9. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've always said that in a H2H, prime Lennox hurts Fury once and the fights over. Lennox Lewis at his absolute best was a top tier Elite finisher, absolutely ****ing ruthless!
     
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  10. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeezo!

    Just caught the highlights - wasn't paying / staying up for what I thought was going to be a fairly predictable mismatch.

    Some thoughts after watching the highlights:-

    1) Props to Ngannou - although he still showed lots of boxing mistakes, he did MUCH better than many - including myself - expected. Fair play
    2) On the other hand, Fury is an absolute disgrace - he treated this like a Seferi fight - or even worse - and was listless, not remotely sharp and in terrible condition - as others have said, he looks like he has spent more time outside the gym trolling Usyk etc and it's cost him - obviously thought he just needed to show up and coast / carry Ngannou and pick up the cheque. Glad Francis showed him that his lack of preofessionalism was always going to catch up with him
    3) On the decision I'd have to see the full match, but on principle I'd be awarding even rounds the guy who has never boxed a professional bout in his puff so I can understand the robbery claims, even if on 10 point must system, it was probably pretty close - the expectation of how much a mismatch it would be probably made it hard to be clearly objective. Not sure I want to sit through all 10 rounds to score it myself though!

    Biggest summary for me, is that on this showing, Fury ain't going anywhere near Usyk, as he gets utterly clowned, and drowned in the championship rounds if he even makes it that far! I've always maintained that Fury would need to bring his Klitschko A-game to be able to keep up with Usyk, and nothing about this changes my mind - but that Fury I'm not sure he is even capable of brining back even if he does train super-hard. Think all the weight yo-yoing, mental issues and the 3 Wilder figthts - and not least this embarrassment with Ngannou - might have taken too much out of Fury.

    It's certainly not going to go ahead on December 23, that's a given - even if that was ever on the cards. I've always had the sneaking feeling that Fury has never wanted to get in the ring with Usyk, and maybe this gives him an out
     
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  11. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The difference is Mayweather was to all intents and purposes finished as a boxer, while McGregor was still top of his game. At the time this **** show happened between Rocky and Thunderlips, both were at the top of their game. Fluid carried and then stopped Connor, Fury barely got out of jail against Ngannou.
     
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  12. deadACE

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    All the boxers in my club say Ngannou was robbed
     
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  13. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Caught the fight this morning…Horrible performance from Tyson. The highlight to me was his fat aze getting back up in the 3rd and the final bell to end this crap.

    I scored it a draw but if you had to pick a winner it was not Tyson or us fans!!!
     
  14. mirkofilipovic

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    I was talking to my friend Samuel Etoo, he too thinks Francis deserved a draw at least.
     
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  15. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    I've just re-watched the fight under non red wine conditions. ;)

    Franky boy excelled here, I knew nothing about him at all prior to this bout as I just don't follow MMA. I didn't even view any buildup YouTube stuff prior to the fight either as I just assumed it was a money spinner circus act. I wasn't taking this fight seriously AT ALL. I'd never seen him throw a shot, it was my first time ever seeing him in a ring of any kind.

    Considering, then, that Franky boy's first pro boxing bout was very much in the deepest end possible as a debut fight, I can only applaud and deeply respect his performance.

    He honestly looked to me, to have the air of a very decently seasoned boxer, had I not known differently, i'd assume he'd been in the boxing game years TBH.


    This got me thinking, had Francis started out in boxing from the off and not MMA, how good could he have bloody been?. I honestly think had he been a pro boxer, and considering his age now at 37, that the whole heavyweight landscape would've been very different to what it is today.


    Even as the novice he is, and at the late age he is now, he can still leave his mark in pro boxing here. As he's just already shown.

    I honestly can't see too many top ten fighters wanting his smoke...he's the classic archetypal high risk low reward bloke...

    It's a shame he's simply very late to the pro boxing party...but, very good that he actually showed up....