Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 3, 2023.


Gypsy King or The Predator?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some random Youtube video says....so it must be true then.
     
  2. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LoL ya. YouTube is facts only :lol:
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury should wait till Usyk is 39
     
  4. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ngannou has a lot of weight to his punches, solid technique now, not the best or good but solid form. He has a highlight reel of putting guys lights out cold, not tko but out into the shadow realm. That should supersede an 8 score. An 8 score is like joe frazier were he breaks you down and then stops you, or like Tyson Fury.

    9 is ko artist level, and Francis is a ko artist. If he started boxing from the bottom, can stacking his record and fighting average fighters. He would have a similar record like Wilder with similar ko ratio over 90%

    in mma he only has 1 dec win , the rest are ko/sub. Francis is a high rate finisher period.

    boxing/kick boxing/mma no matter what sport he's in , he would have a high finish rate. I think 9.5 is accurate or near max 10. But he has some very average attributes like hand speed is his worst. Stamina is average. Low on aggressiveness.
     
  5. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    I agree . In any case both have the potential to knock down an opponent with a single punch .

    Ngannou has for sure more power in his entire body ( legs , back , neck )
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Mike did a tremendous job:
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    If he had been training Ngannou like this for years it would be scary. When he's punching the bag and he's too stationary and Mike pushes him to move you can see the lack of coordination. He's not able to do it properly. That kind of training is key.
     
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Dewey Cooper probably did far more work with him than Mike.
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I agree. But I mean if he actually did do the things Mike is saying in this video consistently he would improve greatly. Mike probably just did like a session or two.
     
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  9. I Dont Play With Dolls

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    Isn't this all just for publicity ? Heard Mike only showed up for camera days.

    If that's true then I feel like Ngannou's actual team and coach are being robbed of the real credit they deserve.
     
  10. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That hook that knocked down Fury wasn't a Tyson type hook. That's something Francis defo worked on without Mike.
     
  11. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    what's the record for the most replied rbr?
     
  12. Boxing2019

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    The outcome of [url]Tyson Fury[/url]’s [url]split-decision victory[/url] over former UFC champion [url]Francis Ngannou[/url] has proved controversial - but the punch stats from the heavyweight crossover fight have revealed a different story.

    Fury [url]survived a knockdown[/url] and avoided the first loss of his professional career when he was named a split-decision winner – 94-95, 96-93, 95-94.

    Ngannou, was making his boxing debut [url]yet outfought Fury [/url]for much of the bout, as a stunned audience looked on in Riyadh.

    The 37-year-old former UFC champion was a massive underdog in the main event in Riyadh but produced a superb performance with immense discipline and aggression, and many figures in the world of boxing declared that the “Predator” had been denied a rightful win.

    But while Ngannou scored more power punches than his opponent – including with his stunning knockdown in the third round, clipping Fury on the top of the head with a fine left hook – stats have revealed that it was the “Gypsy King” who landed the most punches during the 10-round contest.

    In any case even if Furys win was poor but not controversial as one can think he would have few chances to beat Usyk.

    Imo today his chances to beat Usyk are around 30%.

    Thoughts?
     
  13. Juan carlos

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    I think Francis is a tough guy with a good punch and good assimilation of blows... but even though he has some basis in boxing because the guy was training all this time and his beginnings were in boxing which gives him a good base to debut... his performance against Tyson does not tell us how good he is as a boxer... I can say that he is a decent fighter but nothing fierce that we did not see before, which is why I think his boxing career is not It will be so long... in fact I think he could be defeated by the top 10 ranked... there is a lot of enthusiasm to see him fight and that makes me happy but the fans of the ufc are deceived and they will soon discover it and become disenchanted
     
  14. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    This will be moved in 5, 4, 3...
     
  15. I Dont Play With Dolls

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    He's good. Good foot work, good counter punching , heavy hands and very strong inside game.

    From his UFC we know he has a very good chin, when he fought Stipe, who had the most title defences and the longest ko streak in the UFC, he gassed in the first round and got battered for 5(5min rounds) straight , but his chin held up and he toughed it out.

    But he's abit slow, has a slow pace and leaky defence. Averaging 23 punches per round is very low, basically he needs a KO to beat anyone in the top 10 other wise he just gets outworked.