Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 3, 2023.


Gypsy King or The Predator?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Limited at this point
    The transition would have to be full time
     
  2. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    He can be a good top 30-40.
     
  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's big and strong with a decent understanding of the fundaments while being in a good shape. That gets you in the top 20 at HW.
     
  4. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Prime Fury against Wlad who put on a clinic, how would he have fared against Ngannou? Would Fury still get whooped and hit the deck, or would he keep Francis on the end of his jab and feint him all the way back to the UFC
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    He's a top 20 HW in this current landscape of the division.
     
  6. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Chin good.
    Stamina okay.
    Punch great.
    Strength great.
     
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  7. Put to the test

    Put to the test Member Full Member

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    What boxer can beat him ??

    Fury couldn't do it
    That slip they called in the 6th round was another knock down
    go rewatch it
    Ngannou won that fight
     
  8. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He’s already a champion. He doesn’t need to prove anything in boxing.

    Anything he does now is a bonus. He’ll make more well deserved money.

    Anyone not familiar with his story, checkout
    his migration story. He’s a real life movie character. And in my opinion his story ended when he gave the hw champion a knockdown and shocked the world. That’s usually the ending of the movie.

    I don’t really care if he loses his next fight which will be a boring decision loss if it happens. He has his contract with PFL. He can get a fight with Jones in a cross promotion, or face Wilder in mma.
     
  9. bhupender12a

    bhupender12a New Member Full Member

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    Timing as far as starting in Boxing this latre in the game would not be in his best interest. Sure he has the hands,power, I am sure he do all the things boxers do when he's training for a MMA fight,would knock out some heavyweights, However, to be a top performer on a championship level he would have to have an amount of amateur bouts under his belt, it would have to be second nature to him the movement, boxing fancese you just don't get because you were good In a particular sport it takes time.hey but the man is a great athlete.
     
  10. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The decline of Fury has been rapid, has he turned into a gatekeeper now? His titles will be gone soon and Ngannou should be Champion anyway
     
  11. Tally-ho

    Tally-ho fox hunting is cruel banned Full Member

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    What is your assessment of Ngannou's abilities, considering his impressive performance against Fury in his debut boxing match? Is Ngannou as good as he seems, or is Fury's undisciplined approach to the sport causing him to decline rapidly, which allowed Francis to capitalize?
     
  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He surprised Fury who was totally underdone. Ngannou is being overrated and I reckon Chisora will beat him if that fight is indeed next.
     
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  13. Tally-ho

    Tally-ho fox hunting is cruel banned Full Member

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    Fury will qualify for "My 600-lb Life" shortly after retiring from the sport of boxing.
     
  14. kirk

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    I genuinely don't know.

    Ngannou is obviously good. It was less than a year ago that Chisora got completely dogwalked by Fury. Granted, this is Chisoras ghost we are talking about, but still. I think most people would have rated even that Chisora above Ngannou.

    So Ngannou is clearly a top tier fighter and better than everyone believed.

    But let's be real... Fury looked atrocious in there. Absolutely embarrassing.

    A career boxer at the highest levels and he couldn't even throw a southpaw cross. I genuine didn't know wtf I was watching when Fury was embarrassing himself while trying to fight southpaw.

    How much of his horrible form was him not having 'it' anymore, and then without 'it', not being able to rely on mauling a smaller fighter via his large weight advantages.

    It was almost as if being in there with a physically stronger fighter than him who was his own weight stripped him of the advantages he tends to fall back on when he needs to, and in doing so revealed some underlying weaknesses to his game.

    Let's not forget, Ngannou is 37 years old and coming off a serious injury, so this was likely not him at his best either.

    Idk... it was such a bizarre fight, I still don't know what to make of it.
     
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