Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. junkhead

    junkhead My dogs watch me post Full Member

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    Because they can't understand how the (a) heavyweight champion of the world could look so uncoordinated and lost against a fighter on his pro debut and are looking for justification.
     
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  2. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    He looked so bad and out of shape, your random dad at your local schoolboards meeting looks like a Greek sculpture compared to that trash can
     
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  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You would’ve had Wilder in that list if Fury hadn’t already beaten him, also Usyk’s strength isn’t even comparable to Ngannou’s, Ngannou is stronger than Fury, Usyk is NOT stronger than Fury and that was massive factor in Ngannou’s success, a physically presence makes you work a lot harder than you want to, because you have to move, Usyk wouldn’t be able to force Fury to work in the same way.
     
  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    He's got better speed and footwork, and good pop as a HW. That's all he needs to beat Fury.
     
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  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes sure why not, he deserves it.
    Id say he deserves a rematch, Obviously not if the he continues to fight only once a year, but if it were back in 1987 when the REAL Tyson had 4 title fights a year he should get to have another try, why not.

    He really did himself proud.

    Im happy for him.

    Extremely sad shocked and dissappointed for boxing
     
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  6. Dappler

    Dappler New Member banned Full Member

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    Francis "bomayes" everyone outside of Usyk with the newfound confidence he most likely acquired after his match with Fury.
     
  7. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Surely yes.

    Hopefully he enters the ring few more times.

    You can't compare Ngannou to McGregor. Conor can't box to save his life, he's just awful boxer.
    Ngannou is way better at literally everything.

    He won't be a top-boxer, but he can be competitive against some well-known HWs
     
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  8. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100% yes.
     
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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Looked better than Whyte & Chisora.

    Even if Fury was on form there were legit elements in Francis's game that neutralized Fury which others could not achieve.

    I never thought I'd see the day someone would out grapple Fury in a boxing ring...and I just witnessed it. Even Fury was impressed. Francis was vigilant of all the tricks also. Impressive.

    That was an impressive pro debut.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    He's not a professional athlete and it's caught up with him. What does he do in camp? His strength conditioning consists of lifting pints of heavy.
     
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  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    And Gandou has been the first fighter (mma, kickboxing, sumo or karate, I dont care) that was not angry but happy after being robbed or losing a razor close fight.

    Link the dots. That crap was fixed as ****.
     
  12. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    If Ngannou had spent his career boxing, he could have been amazing. He's still decent though and many would like to see him have more boxing matches.
     
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  13. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If so, he could help a lot of fighters.
     
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  14. Samart'sTeep

    Samart'sTeep Active Member Full Member

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    I'd rather see him fight Jon Jones for the UFC heavyweight title, but we can't always get what we want. Fair play to Ngannou, though. Very shocking turn of events. Maybe Fury's years of drug abuse, alcoholism, obesity, inactivity and laziness in training finally caught up with him.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No i wouldn't and i actually wanted Fury to wins in that fights. Wilder is another glass jaw overhyped bum, and his resume speaks volume.
    He has zero Boxing IQ, he has zero fundamentals, and he has zero balance over his spaghetti legs.

    I have ban bet when AJ was going to fight Fury, that AJ will KO him brutally. But Fury finded a way to duck that fight, just like he ducked Usyk and will continue to do so, no matter the supposed signed contract.

    And you have no idea about Usyk strength. AJ and Dubois couldn't move him in the clinch, couldn't do a s**** to him in the clinch as well.
    While Fury is very awkward, very tall and weight a tons, which his strength comes from, how much you weight is not equal to your strength.
    Also Usyk doesn't need to be stronger than Fury and Ngannou, as Usyk use his feets and he moves, he ain't a static robot like Ngannou. Usyk is also incredible fast and throw tons of punches.

    But again keep dreaming. There is a reason and we saw it tonight for all the ducking Fury is doing over the top guys in Boxing. Not just Usyk, but AJ, Zhang, etc.
     
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