Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

There's been this school of thought that modern heavyweights are vastly superior to heavyweights of all past eras simply because it is the nature of sports to evolve and athletes to improve.

After seeing a boxing novice nearly beat a dominant heavyweight champion, how sure are we that the likes of Foreman, Ali, Lewis, Tyson, Liston, Louis, or even Marciano stand no chance of success in this era?

 

What supremacy? He got beat up by an mma fighter. Prime Klitschko would end Fury with a left hook in 2.

 

Ngannou will lose to dereck chisora, people on here seem not to realize what all the drug abuse has turned fury into

 

Very subjective, because Ali born in the 1990's wipes the floor with Ali born in 1942.

Same goes for all of them, training is much better, science, health culture ect.

Heck in Louis's day pads hadn't been invented and smoking was considered to of improved your health.

1990's born Ali probably would be 6ft 6 ,245lbs , floating like a butterfly stinging like an icepick in the eye.

 

out of prime and zombie mode Stipe almost did the impossible off the backfoot. What saved Ngannou was the size difference which makes it harder to transfer the generated force.Much.much.harder.

That chin can be cracked and we have seen him been stunned/hurt by jabs here and there. A shiti ellbow which is useless as fook without a strong body mech and a spinning kick which wasnt really the hardest - but it would make some HWs make the tango dance - doesnt really change anything.

 

How do you know that. I wouldn't say nobody.

 

He's still fairly basic & doesn't do anything spectacular... slow, lead feet, low output... he's just blessed with elite power and physicality & Fury couldn't bully him & that exposed Furys M.O somewhat... I don't think Ngannous performance was anything special, it's just that Furys was that bad...

 

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Mind you, this is what he was working with:

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People, this.

 

The skills he showed in the clinch are very underrated. Tyson is so used to throwing the long jab and rushing into a smothering clinch where he makes the other guy support his weight. Francis did not allow that and proved to be the far superior clinch fighter, which should not be a shock as clinch fighting and grappling are major components of MMA. I noticed a number of actual MMA/Muay Thai moves Francis used when Fury was trying to clinch him up.

Honestly, other HWs should start cross training to better their clinch abilities after seeing how Francis negated Fury so badly there.

 

That was egregious. His fist wasn't even closed meaning he 100% went for an elbow.

 

It's more Ngannou's self awareness knowing he couldn't do that wild **** against Fury. He learned to box and recognized his shortcomings.

 

He absolutely knew what he was doing. Funny enough in Muay Thai training, you are specifically told to not make a fist when throwing an elbow as it will create more damage that way.

I'm shocked #elbowgate has not gotten more attention, I suppose if Francis didn't have a cement block head it would have been much more noticeable. Imagine the uproar had Mayweather launched a dirty shot like that back in the day?

 

Outstanding debut. Hopefully he will be out again soon but there's every chance he will be avoided.