Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    He had his chance to clean out his division and make a name for himself amongst this generation of fighters but it all started to go south after the Wlad fight. He ran from the rematch citing mental illness and what's even more ironic is he paints himself as some sort of bastion of mental health and of the voiceless yet look at what comes out his mouth! Can't stand the guy and the backpedaling and goal post moving during the Joshua and Usyk negotiations put me completely off him. I was actually glad when he beat Wlad but he hasn't been a good champion at all
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, pretty much

    If there is any justice and goodness left in this world Usyk will baptize his ass and ride off into the sunset with all the marbles and Belly's harvested soul
     
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  3. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    Hahaha I like the part about riding off into the sunset with Fury's soul but as much as I don't like the man I think he might beat Usyk. If he's allowed to clinch and rabbit punch he might overwhelm him but the way Fury's been ducking maybe hes not confident.
    The height difference didn't actually look like much when they were in the ring post Ngannou fight but when I saw the video of Usyk training and goading belly he did seem quite small. Having said that Cunningham dropped Fury so there's hope
     
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  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No but it could make Usyk overconfident anyway.

    That's not to say he won't prepare well; he's a consummate pro and will leave no stone unturned but it's often the case that fighters need to feel seriously threatened to perform at their absolute best. Usyk won't feel as threatened by Fury now.

    Did Usyk feel seriously threatened by Briedis? I don't think so:

    "Briedis-Perez case study:

    Briedis won ugly (115-111) with a lot of grappling and went 12 rounds against a Takam and Jennings victim who had 2 minutes of ring time in the previous 32 months, most of which was taken up suffering a brutal 1st round KO against Povetkin.

    Potential benefits of strategic underperformance: Usyk would have misleading film to study (especially as Perez was an experienced amateur southpaw), he would underestimate 7/2 underdog Briedis, losing a degree of focus/motivation and the judges would underestimate Briedis against Usyk, perhaps treating Briedis more generously on the scorecards as a result."

    Did 1/8 favourite Usyk feel seriously threatened by 9 loss Chisora? I doubt it. That's his 3rd most competitive fight, after Briedis and Joshua 2.

    He looked sharper in the first Joshua fight (which he won relatively easily) than he did in the 2nd, though I think this was at least partly due to tactical improvements from Joshua.

    Whereas for Fury it's the complete opposite: if anything's going to give him a kick up the backside and provide focus and discipline for the next few months, it's going life and death with an 0-0 MMA fighter in front of practically every living boxing legend. Or maybe Fury will retire. But either way it's a fascinating situation right now.
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a stupid conspiracy theory. No surprise who it comes from.

    Fury performed bad because he took his opponent lightly and trained half-assed. He didn't 'try' to look bad, he just looked bad.
     
  6. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What i can say is once again the boards are full of Fury fever, he usually dominates the boards around here & it's pandemonium just look around the obsession is real.
     
  7. Serge

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    It's a distinct possibility, the physical disadvantages Usyk will have to overcome alone are ridiculous and we sure as hell will be seeing a much better, more focused and switched on version of Belly for Usyk than the one we saw against Ngannou.

    The mental pressure Belly would've been under after getting dropped, what with it being on a stage of that magnitude, in front of all those greats and legendary fighters of the past, and Usyk being ringside too, would've been immense and I think that coupled with the fear of getting dropped again which would've been even more disastrous, and Ngannou's surprise tactics where he employed a completely different game plan than he expected - boxing a very cagey, smart and disciplined fight, all combined to produce a terrible performance from him.

    I think it was a perfect storm where, despite Ngannou's size, strength and power, I don't think there was a fear factor there for Belly going into the fight and it only materialized when he was in the ring and things started going pear shaped.
     
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  8. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk keeping it respectful as always.
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  9. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Usyk is going to feel the wrath of Fury.
     
  10. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Couldn’t put a dent in Ngannou, also in Wilder 1 didn’t really hurt him. KO’d him in 2nd and 3rd fights but maybe Wilder’s claims of glove tampering aren’t too far fetched after all. Fury has no power and it showed against Francis
     
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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    He wore horsehair punchers gloves for Wilder 2,3 and foam gloves for Francis. Protecting his hands is important and no Fury has never been a puncher. He hits hard enough to keep people honest but uses attrition, size and stamina to knock people out.

    Whyte & Nascimento are some of his rare one punch KO wins.
     
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  13. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ask him to punch you like he did Wilder and let us know if he's feather fisted.
     
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  15. Mickc

    Mickc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is not feather fisted but neither is he the one punch merchant that Sugar wants him to be,Fury is losing to much of his game to accommodate Sugar in making him into a puncher !
     
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