Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The decline of Fury has been rapid, has he turned into a gatekeeper now? His titles will be gone soon and Ngannou should be Champion anyway
     
  2. Tally-ho

    Tally-ho fox hunting is cruel banned Full Member

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    What is your assessment of Ngannou's abilities, considering his impressive performance against Fury in his debut boxing match? Is Ngannou as good as he seems, or is Fury's undisciplined approach to the sport causing him to decline rapidly, which allowed Francis to capitalize?
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He surprised Fury who was totally underdone. Ngannou is being overrated and I reckon Chisora will beat him if that fight is indeed next.
     
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  4. Tally-ho

    Tally-ho fox hunting is cruel banned Full Member

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    Fury will qualify for "My 600-lb Life" shortly after retiring from the sport of boxing.
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I genuinely don't know.

    Ngannou is obviously good. It was less than a year ago that Chisora got completely dogwalked by Fury. Granted, this is Chisoras ghost we are talking about, but still. I think most people would have rated even that Chisora above Ngannou.

    So Ngannou is clearly a top tier fighter and better than everyone believed.

    But let's be real... Fury looked atrocious in there. Absolutely embarrassing.

    A career boxer at the highest levels and he couldn't even throw a southpaw cross. I genuine didn't know wtf I was watching when Fury was embarrassing himself while trying to fight southpaw.

    How much of his horrible form was him not having 'it' anymore, and then without 'it', not being able to rely on mauling a smaller fighter via his large weight advantages.

    It was almost as if being in there with a physically stronger fighter than him who was his own weight stripped him of the advantages he tends to fall back on when he needs to, and in doing so revealed some underlying weaknesses to his game.

    Let's not forget, Ngannou is 37 years old and coming off a serious injury, so this was likely not him at his best either.

    Idk... it was such a bizarre fight, I still don't know what to make of it.
     
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  6. Tally-ho

    Tally-ho fox hunting is cruel banned Full Member

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    It seems like both fighters need to face different top-ten opponents again to assess their true abilities. It feels strange to say that about Fury, the reigning champion.
     
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  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Agreed.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Fury is totally shot.

    When you indulge in alcoholism, cocaine abuse, PEDs, obsesity and weight loss (which is just as **** for your heart and muscles as weight gain), and have a few hard fights on top fo that, 35 is the end of the road.

    He cannot get it back at this point. He will never be in shape again, even Fury shape.
     
  9. monaim

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    We all thought it was a mismatch before the fight, but Ngannou fought much better than wilder, in fact I thought he won. it's robbery.. What did you guys think?
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Yes, it is shameful. Fury has disgraced himself, his family tradition, and boxing. He should really just retire.
     
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  11. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    Fury is the one who should be ashamed for tarnishing the image of the sport. Whether someone thinks he deserved the decision or not doesn't change the fact that the lineal Heavyweight champion got dropped by someone with 0 amateur and professional Boxing experience, while looking uncoordinated and clueless in the process. We've seriously got Joe Rogan calling this one of the best combat sports achievements of all time, and that Ngannou would beat most Heavyweights in the world today for crying out loud.
     
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  12. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    boxing was exposed
     
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  13. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Fury needs a goal to achieve, and I think he has run out of motivation. Then again whenever everyone counts the man out, he manages to rise to the occasion and shock everyone.
    You just can't out crazy "real" crazy.
     
  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Fury disgraced himself. Not Boxing, worse guys beat better fighters before.
    Ngannou can fight, he is not a NASCAR driver that put on gloves and fought Fury. Of course, Fury being the lineal champion in a division that is hot for a few years, it is a bad look for the sport too, I know that. But there is a bit of a overreaction in saying that he killed boxing or that boxing was embarassed...
     
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  15. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Well, he did, didn“t he ? He beat in most scorecards the man that took the belts from Wlad and beat Wilder twice. And I feel that Fury is not done, at all, and is going to beat Usyk, he will rematch Ngannou and beat Ngannou in a clear decision but he is not stopping Ngannou.