Tyson Luke Fury vs. Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk

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Gypsy King or The Cat?

Poll closed May 18, 2024.
  1. Fury on points

    24.5%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    19.1%
  3. Draw

    3.1%
  4. Usyk on points

    43.3%
  5. Usyk by stoppage

    10.0%
  1. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is an alarming lack of hype about this fight in the States. We are less than 2 weeks out, and there has been almost nothing over here. I am starting to have my doubts this fight will actually happen.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And if that isn't enough in his recent comments(Turki i mean), where he talks how he want to transform Boxing and the P4P ranking. He was mentioning his P4P ranking, and this guy didn't have Usyk in his top 10 P4P ranking, can you imagine ?
    And Usyk is currently Number 3 P4P.

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    But you know what, Usyk will define the odds once again and will totally destroys Fury. Believe in that my friend, as i believe in Usyk.
     
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  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neither one of these men have the physical ability to ko the other, it's definitely gonna be a decision and I think there will be scorecards most of us are going to side eye with extreme prejudice

    Anyway, Usyk UD12 (will likely be SD12 though)
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Firstly Fury chin is anything but solid, as 210lbs. Steve Cunningham who has exactly 13 KO out of 30 wins and 40 fights, and Neven Pajkić who had 5 KO out of 17 wins are anything but big punchers or even close to that. And Cunningham hurt Fury on couple of occasions.

    As Far as Usyk and not pursue KOS and your example with AJ i disagree, and there is a big difference between Fury and AJ.
    The times when Usyk hurt AJ, and then try to comes up with combination AJ was able to counter him, and keep him honest, except for the 12th, round, which Usyk goes for it, but there wasn't enough time.
    But the difference you and no one on here also seems to acknowledge is, that both AJ and Dubois are huge punchers, top 5 in the division surely. They also are super explosive and throw combinations with ease.
    And this was something Usyk has to comply with. With Fury on the other hand, he doesn't possess neither the explosiveness, neither the one shot power or even huge power, to keep Usyk at fear of getting KOed.
    So Usyk can be a lot more aggressive against Fury and goes way more freely if the opportunity arise.

    I have no problem with your prediction, either if it's for Usyk or Fury i just think people are overlooking Usyk power and that he can win this fight via KO/TKO, which to me will be the result. As Usyk also knows there is a big chance for them to try to rob him.

    As far as the Bellew comparison goes i mean in the similar fashion. Usyk literally pressure Bellew into exhaustion and then KO him.
    We shall see for how many rounds Fury cardio will last.
    Good evening bud and let just hope the fight finally happens.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    when you're dancing on the edge of range trying to outbox a titan like Fury it's going to be very hard to find power shots...Fury isn't going to walk in like a bum named AJ and get slapped up the joint...and if he does decide to walk forward he's going to war, you or me something AJ cannot do because he's a bum dosser. Chisora plodded forward with 4 rounds of gas and did decent. Fury has 8 rounds of gas minimum and a giant cory.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wait, what? That's his personal P4P top 10?

    Crawford
    Inoue
    Nakatani
    Clenelo
    Shakur
    Teraji
    Beterbiev
    Bam-Rod
    Navarette
    Matias

    Is this a joke?

    I'm looking in the comments and I'm not even seeing people asking why Usyk isn't there

    Usyk has got to be the most disrespected fighter in all of boxing and the worst thing is he's literally one of the ones most deserving of respect and for multiple different reasons

    Hatman made a video about it a while ago

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    I's like to think so Lordlosh but I don't think Usyk can come away with a victory from this fight if he sparks Belly out cold in 30 seconds. I've never seen anything like this :facepalm:
     
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  7. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

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    Eddie Hearn is predicting Fury wins by stoppage.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah buddy keep telling yourself that story. Ngannou fight is very telling who the actual bum is Fury or AJ.
    And Chisora won nothing but the first 2 rounds and was eating counters all night and hitting thin air.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk is so much more than boxing

    He is everything there is or could ever be

    But ultimately, and I think all of us can agree on this, Usyk is love

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  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can hear the excuses now.
    "Fury trained too hard; had nothing left on fight night".
    "Fury drained down too much; weakened him too much".
    "Fury feared Usyks movement, that's why he fought so defensively and lost the decision ".
    "The judges didn't get their wires from Al Turki in time so they thought Al Turki wanted a fair scorecard ".
     
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  11. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Usyk fans have been making plenty of excuses already:

    - Ref is gonna be corrupt
    - Scorecards are gonna be rigged
    - Fury is on steroids
    - Usyk will be overtrained
    - Usyk got aged out
     
  12. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    Casuals don't deserve to witness this fight

    They only jumped on the Fury bandwagon for the 3rd Wilder bout.
     
  13. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top three sentences are facts. Last two are Furyesque rants.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  15. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    Same in Oz mate.
     
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