Tyson Luke Fury vs. Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk

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Gypsy King or The Cat?

Poll closed May 18, 2024.
  1. Fury on points

    24.5%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    19.1%
  3. Draw

    3.1%
  4. Usyk on points

    43.3%
  5. Usyk by stoppage

    10.0%
  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah i support Usyk. But all of this talk stuffs, getting in someone's head, and he is scared, etc, etc, may work on very limited boxers like guys like WIlder only.

    Neither Fury or anyone is scared of Usyk, and vice versa.
    All fight week to be fair is completely irrelevant to the fight itself and how's it's going to play out.
     
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  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    When the fight was first announced, I had Fury by the slightest of margins.

    Given the delays and everything that has happened since then, I now lean towards Usyk winning.

    My estimate of probabilities:

    Fury wins by KO / TKO.......5 %
    Fury wins by UD...............30 %
    Fury wins by SD / MD.........5 %...........Total Fury: 40 %
    Draw................................3 %.
    Usyk wins by SD / MD........5 %
    Usyk wins by UD...............35 %
    Usyk wins by KO /TKO.......15 %
    Usyk wins by DQ................2 %..........Total Usyk: 57 %
     
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  3. Moe Balbaghe

    Moe Balbaghe New Member Full Member

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    People talking up the size difference will be surprised when they see them in the ring next to each other. Fury is not 6'9 & 280, he's 6'7 1/2 and I imagine will weigh in at around 265. Yes 4.5 inches & 40 lbs difference is noteworthy but I think some people are imagining a middleweight vs goliath - it won't look like that in the ring!

    I think Fury cutting down to 265 will be an attempt to maintain enough of a size advantage whilst being more mobile than his last few fights. Thought he looked very slow vs Ngannou. Fury will start off staying out of range and trying to pick up a few early rounds by jabbing. By round 3 at the latest I expect Usyk to begin to take control of the fight & wouldn't be surprised if he wins rounds 3, 4, & 5 (plus one of the first two). At this point I expect Fury to try and walk him down & impose his size. I don't know how successful that will be, I suspect he will land more but get caught more

    Fury may pick up a few rounds between 6-9, but I expect Usyk to win 10, 11 & 12, and possibly might have Fury wobbly late on like he did to AJ. Fury is more likely than AJ to risk it all late on and go hell for leather, which increases the chance that he himself gets KO/TKO'd

    Think Usyk either gets a late TKO in 11 or 12, or wins a decision 8-4 or 7-5. I just hope the judging is fair and accurate, very important for boxing that this is scored well

    Official prediction: Usyk via points (8-4)
     
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  4. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @Moe Balbaghe The British Lobby and Al Turki won't give the nod to Usyk. The only option for Usyk is to win by KO/TKO.
     
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  5. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LL at the moment both of these fighters are top of the tree in there Division,nothing is going to faze them they both no what lays ahead and what they have to do,fight week as most fans know is all posturing and propaganda to keep the fans hooked and help,drive up interest ppv etc etc. May the best man win in a clear manner with no controversy :campeon:
     
  6. Moe Balbaghe

    Moe Balbaghe New Member Full Member

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    I'm not entirely sure this will be the case if Usyk is clearly winning. If Usyk has won 8-4 and it gets given to Fury the noise of corruption will be too loud to take. If it's 7-5 and close then I could see dodgy refereeing coming into it. Whilst Saudi Arabia is an insanely corrupt country, part of me does think Turki just wants to see these fights and see who wins - Ngannou winning on a scorecard vs Fury shows this

    Fury vs AJ is still huge even if both have lost to Usyk
     
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  8. gneall

    gneall Active Member Full Member

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    The noise of corruption will be too loud to take?

    You will still watch the big fights despite the corrupt scorecards and don't pretend you won't, because you already do
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    But Ngannou should have won on all scorecards. Also there was a clear intentional elbow + not given KD for Ngannou.
     
  10. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @Moe Balbaghe but they attempted to rob Usyk in both AJ fights, in 1st fight he got a very close decision and in the 2nd he got a split decision, although he was way ahead in both fights.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is a great tactical analysis by raf:
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  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    How many robberies have we had in Saudi Arabia so far?
     
  13. Joy_Rones

    Joy_Rones Member Full Member

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    This 100%. No way in hell will Usyk get a fair shake. Turki and Fury are pals. But I don't see Usyk KOing Fury either(or the other way around) . I want Usyk to win but my brain is saying draw or bs Fury decision.
     
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  14. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    I agree - I think this is Furys last fight, if he loses, and second last if he wins. Cash out so to speak.
     
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  15. Moe Balbaghe

    Moe Balbaghe New Member Full Member

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    It will be too loud to take for the reputation of boxing to have any semblance of neutrality. I never said I'd stop watching anything mate, I will watch what I want when I want, I love watching boxing

    Just saying that in a fight of this magnitude if it's a blind robbery there will be a big backlash