Tyson never won a big fight since 1990. Bull****!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Jazzo, Jul 30, 2010.


  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Good point.
    It's a shame the Norris fight ended the way it did, and so early. Could have been interesting.

    Tyson was pretty much mentally gone at this stage of his career though. He was relying a lot on intimidation and his "maddest man on the planet" persona, and doing all that arm-bar **** foul ****. I mean, he'd always been a bit of a rough and dirty fighter, but that stuff with the arm, and what he did against Saverese, (not to mention the bite!), showed a lack of professional mental discipline and a lack of true confidence.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    No.
    I think he lost weight simply because he doesn't like be a fat piece of ****.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Tysons down to 235. Theres been several reports hes coming back but I dont think he wants it. Don King was trying like hell to get him to comeback, but I think King has moved on, is now flirting with Mayweather Jr, whose been seen in every restraunt down here in so. Florida. I swear Mayweather is following me. I was in the same hotel with him last week in Puerto Rico, and just saw him up at a steak house with King a few days ago.
    Heres a picture of FLoyd throwing down 20K at the blackjack table, after they kindly asked me to leave the table so he could play by himself. :D
     
  4. Caelum

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    He trained, but only "physically." But even then, there is nothing better for your body in training than being mentally in the right zone.

    He wasn't trained properly for Holyfield I, but was for Holyfield II...however, he was **** mentally so it didn't matter.

    It always came down to the emotional state of Tyson...which is really the case with any fighter. Even Evander sought both spiritual help/guidance and even a sports-psychiatrist...which I hear Tyson may have been doing while with D'Amato/Catyon/Jacobs.

    He did stop wanting to win at a certain point. He was a drug-addict. Just wanted to pay the bills.
    I always questioned how much he wanted it after the "O" was gone given he was a crazed perfectionist...and he also admitted his career was over after Douglas. However, knowing his history, he also knew the benefits of losing and then regaining that stature so that is always there. Hard to say with him.


    He did however want to beat Holyfield. He said that. But again, to defeat Holyfield, even at that point, you as a fighter have to be mentally prepared to go to war. Tyson was long gone mentally as that sensational {as the word used by Atlas} fighter he once was.

    It all starts up top. Evander always had it. Evander was more mature as well.
     
  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    tyson was a fast powerhouse who had the edge of speed in his younger days. so much so that It compensated for height and reach - even on the outside. He dumbed down in certain fights and just used power but he never adapted like a veteran should. The biggest mistake in his matchmaking in his later career was matching him against giants when he no longer had the engine to outwork them. you still had to give him a chance with anyone over 3 rounds though.
     
  6. alexvoce

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    tysons actually down to less than his 217-220 prime i met him last week in peterborough with his vegan diet he is in the gym every morning for at least an hour doing cardio etc
     
  7. DamonD

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    I think he's just down for the sake of his health, not so much for plans of a comeback.

    Dropping a lot of weight won't regenerate his reflexes, speed up his legs or undo the punches that have thudded against his head and body over the years.