Tyson on Ali

Prime unbeaten Tyson would be mentally beaten against no man. He genuinely believed that no one would dared to challenge him with their primitive skills. Lol.

 

He probably did not think that, but it didnt help against Douglas, he was young, in his Prime, and the Undefeated HW champ of the world, Ali is bigger, faster, guicker, probably hits a little harder and better chin, defense and Ring General all over Buster, so Ali Beats Tyson, because if you don't believe that, then just say Mike is the best ever and #1 HW of all time, which we know he is not, if he had fought holyfield or Buster as he was on that night earlier in his career and lost, people would not be talking like they are about Mike, they would have other excuses for him.
Buster beat him end of story, and so does Ali, Holmes in his Prime.

 

Muhammad Ali vs. Mike Tyson
This one might be the greatest debate in history, but if your like me, and you grew up watching Ali, and then Tyson, you know who would win and why.
For me, the easiest way to show you, is to have you watch the Tyson vs. James Buster Douglas fight, many claim Tyson was not training well for that fight, that he didnt have his best people around him and so on and on, big deal, he was the Undefeated Champion of the world, young and in his Prime, and an average Douglas easily beat him, Douglas is what I call a Poor Mans version of Ali, Ali was bigger, faster, quicker, stronger, had more power and speed, could take a better punch than Douglas and moved 10x better, he had everything over Douglas by FAR, so at any point in Tyson's Career Ali beats him.
Ali was a more complete warrior than Mike Tyson.
In 10 Categories to rate the 2, Style, Chin, Heart, Psychology, Key Losses, Stamina/Endurance, Power Speed, Defense & what I call the IT Category, ALI had it, this is the Unknown factor.
Categories Ali gets, 1. Style 2. Chin 3. Heart 4. Psychology 5. Key Losses 6. Stamina/Endurance 7. Speed 8. Defense 9. IT FActor
Tyson gets the Power Category and is almost even in Defense & Speed, as he was one of the FAstest and quickest punchers in history and had a great defense, even though it was not needed often.
So Ali gets 9 out of 10 Categories, no way Tyson wins.
There is also something else to note. Ali, while inferior to Tyson in Power, was no slouch when it came to power and Tyson no slouch in speed. Tyson, on the other hand, had major deficiencies in chin, heart, psychology and stamina. Any opponent who beat Ali did so in a hard fought battle that went AT LEAST 10 rounds.
Frazier won a unanimous decision in 15 rounds.
Ken Norton won a split decision in 12 rounds.
Leon Spinks won a split decision in 15 rounds.
Larry Holmes won a TKO in 10 rounds.
Trevor Berbick won a unanimous decision in 10 rounds.
In order for Tyson to beat Ali he’d have to take him down and take him down quick. Some of the best boxers in American history couldn’t do it and Tyson wouldn’t do it either.
This fight would be hard fought for the first few rounds. In round five or six Ali would begin to outclass and frustrate Mike Tyson. Tyson was known to get anxious (as he was known to do) in those middle rounds and take big risks with punches. He’d connect with just enough shots to open himself up for major punishment.
The x-factor through the whole Ali—Tyson match up is the clinch. Ali, like Jack Johnson, used the clinch to separate the men from the boys. Ali loved to cup the back of the head with one hand to bend the opponent forwards, and then use his other hand to cup their arm at the biceps. If he kept the elbow of the hand on the opponent's neck close, he could effectively muffle or stop all of their blows, but keep the tie up lose enough that most referees would encourage the clinched man to keep working. It was Ali's greatest trick and he knew it, and it would frustrate Tyson.
Also Ali's 7-inch reach advantage with the Best Jab in HW History, would be Tyson's next frustrating thing, he may end up resorting to BITING THE EAR!
By round 10, Tyson would be clearly outclassed and looking for a way out. He’d get it in the form of a unanimous decision for Ali, or even possibly, a TKO via the same way James Buster Douglas did it.
Sorry Tyson fans, its just not in the cards.
DOWN GOES TYSON!
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60s Ali makes Mike look really bad despite perhaps going down from the hook once. Ref stops the fight in 9.

70s Ali has a much harder time, though he pulls the rope-a-dope. Still, Ali's heart would win out, stoppage around the same time he stopped Lyle.

 

1980 Holmes would probably bully the hell out of prime Mike, shoving him off after the jab-right hand and manhandling the clinches. He was just bigger and better. The uppercut would signal the end for the latter, with Mike's face being a huge punkin head from all the jabs.

I actually like Mike better as a person (I first had to be an idiot and stop not forgiving him for the ****) now that I'd been here. I don't see him as a top five ATG, but top ten without question.

 

I'm with you in your first paragraph but I think Mike would probably catch 70's Ali, especially after '74.

 

Hmm..that would be after the Foreman fight...Ali lost the title (off paper) to Norton, not long after.

Tell you what, I agree with you after the Thriller in Manila. TiM Ali was too driven to lose to Mike imo, he still showed flashes of greatness in that fight.

The Ali who lost (imo) to Norton in III and after would lose to Mike.

I see the Ali of the early 70s/Bob Foster, FOTC, and Quarry fights ultimately knocking the crap out of IM. It wouldn't be the sensational, dancing master of the 60s but Ali had more than enough upon his comeback to figure out and stop Tyson imo.