Tyson or Frazier? Who ranks higher on your heavyweight ATG list?

Time to rearrange the rankings!!!

V. Klitschko 45-2-0 (41kos)
Opp W/L/D-1139-248-27
Opp Winning %-80.2
Winning %-95.2
Overall Rating: 87.2
(That would move him to #4)

W. Klitschko 64-5-0 (53kos)
Opp W/L/D-1655-364-47
Opp Winning %- 80.0
Winning %- 92.7
Overall Rating: 86.4
(And this puts Wlad at #6)

 

New rankings by my good friend Greg Rowe. Check out his Youtube boxing channel.



1. Ali 56-5-0 (37ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1975-319-72

Opp Winning %-83.5

Winning %-91.8

Overall Rating: 87.7



T2) Tyson 50-6-0 (44ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1334-213-17

Opp Winning %-85.3

Winning %-89.3

Overall Rating: 87.3



T2) Bowe 43-1-0 (33kos)

Opp W/L/D-780-207-25

Opp Winning %-77.0

Winning %- 97.7

Overall Ranking 87.3



4. V. Klitschko 45-2-0 (41kos)

Opp W/L/D-1139-248-27

Opp Winning %-80.2

Winning %-95.2

Overall Rating: 87.2



5. Lewis 41-2-1 (32ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1124-240-23

Opp Winning %-81.0

Winning %-93.3

Overall Rating: 87.1



6. W. Klitschko 64-5-0 (53kos)

Opp W/L/D-1655-364-47

Opp Winning %- 80.0

Winning %- 92.7

Overall Rating: 86.4



7. Marciano 49-0-0 (43ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1502-515-88

Opp Winning %-71.4

Winning %-100

Overall Rating: 85.7



8. Louis 66-3-0 (52ko's)

Opp W/L/D-2749-711-185

Opp Winning %-75.3

Winning %-95.7

Overall Rating: 85.5



9. Holmes 69-6-0 (44ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1482-384-50

Opp Winning %-77.3

Winning %-92.0

Overall Rating: 84.7



10. Tunney 65-1-1 (48kos)

Opp W/L/D-1367-404-123

Opp Wnning %-72.2

Winning %-97.0

Overall Rating: 84.6



11. Frazier 32-4-1 (27ko's)

Opp W/L/D-942-196-36

Opp Winning %-80.2

Winning %-86.5

Overall Rating: 83.4



12. Sullivan 38-1-1 (32kos)

Opp W/L/D-87-17-18

Opp Winning%-71.3

Winning %-95.0

Overall Rating: 83.2



13. Foreman 76-5-0 (68ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1727-609-96

Opp Winning %-71.0

Winning %-93.8

Overall Rating: 82.4



14. Liston 50-4 (39ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1178-447-100

Opp Winning %-68.3

Winning %-92.6

Overall Rating: 82.3



15. Jeffries 19-1-2 (16kos)

Opp W/L/D-455-69-76

Opp Winning %-75.8

Winning %- 86.4

Overall Rating: 81.1



16. Holyfield *26-10-2 (17ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1445*-119-22

(Only counts Heavyweight fights)

Opp Winning %-91.9

Winning %-68.4

Overall Rating: 80.2



17. Patterson 55-8-1 (40kos)

Opp W/L/D-1900-553-123

Opp Winning%-73.7

Winning %-85.9

Overall Rating: 79.8



18. Norton 42-7-1 (33kos)

Opp W/L/D-952-312-56

Opp Winning %- 72.1

Winning %- 84.0

Overall Rating: 78.0



19. Charles 95-25-1 (52kos)

Opp W/L/D-4310-1272-316

Opp Winning %-73.0

Winning %-78.5

Overall Rating: 75.8



20. Schmeling 56-10-4 (40kos)

Opp W/L/D-1903-592-207

Opp Winning %-70.4

Winning %-80.0

Overall Rating: 75.2



21. Baer 66-13-0 (51kos)

Opp W/L/D-2074-803-305

Opp Winning %-65.2

Winning %-83.5

Overall Rating: 74.4



22. Walcott 51-18-2 (32kos)

Opp W/L/D-2150-652-147

Opp Winning %-72.9

Winning %-71.8

Overall Rating: 72.4



23. Dempsey 61-6-9 (50ko's)

Opp W/L/D-1554*-486-444

(6fights with no info)

Opp Winning %-62.6

Winning %-80.3

Overall Rating: 71.5



24. Johnson 84-13-14 (45kos)

Opp W/L/D-1653*-537-322

( does not include all bouts with no info or his 17 newspaper fights)

Opp Winning %-65.8

Winning %-75.7

Overall Rating: 70.8



25. Corbett 11-4-3 (5kos)

Opp W/L/D-361-38-73

Opp Winning %- 76.5

Winning %-61.1

Overall Rating: 68.8

 

No he does not. Apart from Ali, none of his wins are comparable.

 

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Brilliant list.

 

Quarry, Bonavena and Ellis are definitely comparable to Tyson's best wins.

 

All were weaker than Spinks, Holmes, Tucker, Ruddock, Bruno, Smith, etc
Plus Tyson was the youngest champ ever and he also got his title back. Frazier never did.

 

All were significantly better than Smith and Bruno.

I wouldn't compare indisputed champion to one belt holder. Tyson was never the champion in 1990s.

 

He was champion in 1996 after winning against Frank Bruno lol.

 

As a fighter, Joe Frazier was definitely much higher than Tyson. But as champions, Tyson unified all the titles (as did Joe), and although Joe made many defenses as champion, he didn't make quite as many as Tyson. Overall, Tyson's resume of big names outranks Joe's, whose is still pretty impressive.

 

He wasn't a lineal undisputed champion.

 

Get real, Tyson was twice the boxer Frazier was.

 

There is no way you can rank Tyson higher than Frazier in legacy. No human way

 

Exactly

 

He still held the WBC and WBA belts, unlike Frazier who never got them back.