Tyson reflects on his punching power

The mechanics for punching quickly are the same as punching with power it's all about how you use the floor.

 

Power/quickness are about the snap, perhaps even moreso than the leverage. Check out Larry Holmes' knockdown of Marvis Frazier. It wasn't a particularly strong punch, but watch his reset directly after delivering the punch. Frazier went down as if shot.

 

The knock down was more to do with Frazier having all his weight forwards and having his hands down and his chin up then it was Holmes power he was literally a perfect target.

Though Holmes threw his right really well.

 

It was pretty damn impressive, the reset in particular for me. Holmes went immediately back into position after having stepped into the right. And he was far from a great puncher (though no Slapsie Maxie, either).

 

The punch that wrecked Moorer traveled probably 18 inches. It looked like he lollypopped it in there on first glance, but if you watch he set him up — actually did throw a couple 1-2’s where he lollypopped the 2 … then he brought a little more mustard on the last one (a bit faster, more shoulder behind it) because he had lulled MM into thinking it was just little league pitch-and-catch stuff.

That right hand put 36 stitches inside Moorer’s mouth — the impact was such that it actually tore up the inside of his mouth. Think about that. (The ‘grenade going off’ aforementioned, only this time it was disguised as a piece of Halloween candy that Moorer bit on.)

 

Foreman packed maximum leverage into that short shot. It's something he would have won a ton of other fights with if he'd bothered. For most of his career he got pretty wild when his man was in trouble. He timed it straight on the jaw.

It's like both you and he stated: he lulled Moorer into believing he was punched out.

 

Where would you put punchers like Dempsey, Baer and Wladimir?

 

Weren't both Baer and Dempsey on the explosive side?

Wladimir I rate a little of both.

 

Holmes's power is a little underrated. He could wind up and throw that straight right pretty hard, and his right uppercut had a ton of snap. But, with his jab, reach, and hand speed, why focus on going for knockouts? He focused on winning on points, and if he got in a position for a knockout great. But I doubt he ever had a fight plan based on going for a knockout.

 

If you want speed and power the hips and shoulder must go before the fist it's a simple concept it is the fastest/shortest and most powerful form of delivery arm punching is a slow movement because there is no weight being shifted it's all pretty basic stuff man. I am not sure what you are trying to say exactly by explaining the kinetic chain and talking about taking big single shots? Infact your whole post is all over the place which Is why I am not exactly addressing any one thing you may want to try again if I have misunderstood you? but in summary your relationship with the floor is how you get anywhere in boxing and whoever taught you differently is also fundamentally wrong.

 

Thanks for sharing this. Tyson did punch very hard as he himself said. Speed and snap added to his natural power. Accuracy and punching in combination complemented the effect of the power, including the “punch you don’t see” factor.

Isolated from combos, Mike still punched extremely hard per punch and he has a number of single shots to attest to same.

Examining the right hand that dropped Holmes for the first KD, we can exclude combination punching and to a degree the punch you don’t see factor, (Larry was squared up and well wary of Mike’s right) and we can also say it wasn’t perfectly accurate or on the most vulnerable target area.

In a nut shell, a very fast, very powerful, detonate on impact, single shot to Larry’s left temple. It was huge. Larry crashed. A few inches lower on the point of the chin and Larry’s not getting up imo.

I swear the force of that one punch left a visible indentation on Holmes left temple. I suppose I should carefully scrutinise before and after vision of Holmes just to confirm it wasn’t a pre-existing imperfection on Larry’s cranium, which isn’t impossible I guess. : )

 

I said the mechanics for speed and power are the same read my post properly.