Tyson reflects on his punching power

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  1. Glass City Cobra

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    He's talking about "bigger" men who hit like a truck. He's not referring to Thomas or berbick and certainly not Holmes or spinks.
     
  2. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Thats a little more reasonable, yes.

    Like @sauhund II said, Tyson had enough crack to hurt about anybody with one shot. At this point, for me, it doesn´t really matter if you had James Smith or Foreman-like hands. It really comes down to get punches in.
     
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    Is that a poster who dislikes you?

    It isn't worth it honestly, who cares.

    If I was Eddie Futch himself you'd dig your heels in at this point with how I have treated you.

    In order for you to admit I was right you'd have to admit you are an idiot and be humiliated that really isn't right- I should have treated this more delicately .

    Consider this a sincere apology.
     
  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I don't need any fake apologies.

    You supposedly squashed the beef with me months ago and here you are being antagonistic, rude, and an overall asshat once again. Ignoring questions, using straw man arguments, and projecting. It's the same old story.

    Nobody likes you. You're not funny and you aren't remotely as witty as you think you are.

    Like I said, go derail some other thread. The only one whose been "exposed" is you. :lol:
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

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    Kind of.

    He does have some one punch KOs but many of them are shots guys walk right into that he sets up brilliantly with his good timing and accuracy, which is what Tyson himself admitted in the quote I provided.

    He did stop durable guys who rarely got stopped such as Berbick and Holmes, but then he also failed to stop guys who weren't exactly made of granite either such as Tillis or Ruddock. Many of his early blowouts were a barrage of blistering punches or hitting guys with things they didn't see coming.
     
  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Someone should check the major knockouts of Foreman, Tyson, Liston and maybe Joe Louis and watch how many punches really connected until the fight was stopped.
    Majority of the stoppages occur after more than one punch of course. If I had to bet, I´d say that you had trouble finding a significant difference in "one punch power" for those fighters if someone really did numbers & stats. But you could count the punches and try a hierarchy with that for example, until someone saw the stats and noted Fighter A beeing much more durable than Fighter B ....
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

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    Actually I think Louis and Liston would have an advantage in those categories. Louis had savage early blowouts of guys like Schmeling, the Baer brothers, Galento, etc. Liston has the two 1st round KOs over Patterson along with early KOs over Williams, durable guys like scrap iron Johnson, etc.

    But yes, the term one punch KO artist is a bit of an exaggeration and some what misleading. I agree. However, I think the main point Tyson is making in the quote is that guys who had bludgeoning power such as Liston, Foreman, Cooney, Sims, etc hit harder with single shots more than others. They can hit you in the shoulder, elbow, etc and rattle your whole body and cause major internal damage.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Foreman's power comes from his forearms ... I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this .... His bone structure is the driving factor behind his power ... Tyson had a very heavy build as well but his power was from his technique and explosiveness

    Tysons power has A level power and this is as we all know ... A well known fact
     
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  11. Entaowed

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    Even tallying up one punch KOs & compensating for opponent, chin, stage of career would not necessarily reflect who hits harder.
    Those like Tyson who are both more precise & punches are faster than others loading up & slower would have impact.
    Tyson anyway is in all likelihood a "9" in raw power-among Professional modern HWs.
    A few others like Foreman Liston Tua Ruddock Smith 'roids Morrison Butterbean Wlad & some who never went very far are 10s.

    Maybe we can have a thread where everyone uploads their videos of presumed ferocious punching power?
    Specifying how heavy the bag is, if sound effects are enhanced-others could post comedic versions.
     
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  12. Glass City Cobra

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    Sounds like a plan.

    The weight of the bag, how far it moves and rattles, the impact sounds, all make difference. Same thing applies to opponents of course.

    I think the insanity of Foreman's bag work speaks for itself. In over 100 years of heavyweight boxing I haven't seen anyone display this kind of raw destruction with such minimal effort.

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    yeah I love those clips.
    Imagine if he took long strides & wind ups!
    Imagine having to bear up under such shots in the ring!
    An ordinary person-or a big strong guy-trying to make an impact on such a dense, heavy bag would be surprised at how little impact they would have!
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Yeah, I don't think it's controversial to say that Foreman was more of an arm puncher than most big punchers, even though he could certainly punch with leverage as well. When he finished off Lyle it was quite a bit of arm punching going on from memory, but haven't seen it in a long while.
     
  15. White Bomber

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    That was my point in a thread about Shavers's punching power compared to that of Foreman, that if Foreman winded up the way Shavers did, he'd hit way harder.