Tyson - Ruddock brutal

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Black2023, Jan 10, 2012.


  1. Black2023

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUAG1bjht40[/ame]




    how do the modern day guys stack up
     
  2. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah savage body attack!!!
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Tyson had already slipped by that point. Still very good and dangerous though.

    Ruddock's mentality was his biggest problem, able boxer but wanted to be an action hero :-(
     
  4. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    great fight, Tyson was far from prime here but put in a great performance. Also the stoppage was an excellent one people dont realise the power these heavyweights generate, Ruddock was defenseless with his hands down backed up against the ropes, Tyson would have tagged him at will.

    The build up and press conferences for this fight were excellent, Tyson at his best!!
     
  5. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brutal some of the thumps you hear there are actually quite sickening. Amazing that any human body is able to stand up to that sort of attack.

    You just dont see heavyweights fight at that pace anymore because they dont have the conditioning. Which is a crying shame.
     
  6. 12downfor10

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    Hell of a fight. Great stoppage as well IMO. The 1st knockdown was an absolute peach of a left hook
     
  7. Flea Man

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    I reckon today's versions of Wlad and Vitali would struggle to maintain a 6-10 ranking in the 90s. Very good era of big Heavyweights.
     
  8. skel1983

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    Ruddock would probably be the best out there now after the Klits.

    How do you think he would do with the Klits?
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Ruddock was capable, but liked trading too much. I reckon Wlad would win a pretty safe decision over him, although if Ruddock can utilise his ability and land some heavy punches Wlad could well be ****ed. Ruddock would most probably be too quick for this version of Vitali as well.

    All depends which version of Donovan shows up. Either way he'd be a far more interesting challenger than anyone else out there, and actually turn up to fight. He is probably most well known for being smashed up by Lennox in quick fashion, but traded with Morrison, and stuck it out against Tyson twice.

    Ruddock, pre-Tyson, against faded and coked up talent Dokes. Absolutely horrific stoppage. This version gives them the best go IMO :good

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehFuWEkI-Q[/ame]
     
  10. skel1983

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    Cheers for that Flea. :good
     
  11. How did Dokes get a shot at Bowe, that's something I'd like to know. And Jesse Ferguson too whilst we're at it.

    Aside from the obvious ''Rock Newman wanted some easy defences'' answer.

    Ruddock vs a prime Vitali would be a belter. He's probably too easy to hit to succeed against Wlad, who'd keep him long and away from his left hook.

    I'd really love to see Wlad go after somebody, and see what he's really got in that respect.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    No probs skel :good

    Rhino, **** knows, Bowe's opposition wasn't great but in the early 90s there were either faded contenders of savage dangerman. Bowe was kept away from the latter and I think it's easy to see why.

    -Good chin but buzzable
    -Hard to motivate in training
    -Newman's ineptitude

    Still, he got the better of Evander in their series, and he was the best in the World the first time. Bowe was very talented, but almost the reverse of Ruddock in that he really couldn't be arsed most of the time!

    I think he achieved just about right myself. As for H2H, his jab and inside game certainly give him a big edge against the Klits IMO, if we're taking the Riddick of Holyfield I anyway.
     
  13. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Rock Newman wanted to milk the title and not get involved with Don King fighters (that's understandable).

    Dokes and Ferguson were easy fights and cheap opponents.
    Paying customers were willing to allow a young promising new champion a freebie or two.
    Problem is, in hindsight it looks really awful because Bowe went and lost to Holyfield, so people have no choice but to remember Dokes and Ferguson and the fact that he never did face Lewis.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield and Lewis. When these guys were 'on' their performances were stunning.

    Same talent has been since forever but they don't train or prepare anything like they used to. Bowe had Futch, Tyson had D'Amato, Lewis had Steward and Holyfield was never out of shape. All had good amateur pedigree which they built on in the pro.
     
  15. Black2023

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    What year are are we talking though?